NL4 25082014 - JJ vs passive-loose

I wil not bet the flop, because you never get a call from worse hand, u might only lose the value of middle pairs and Ace highs which he bets the turn when we check to him. We folding the riverbet of course.

Overplayed, agree. Just wanted a confirmation of my fishy flop cbet.

Its not fishy, it depend on information you have. Vs uknown check the flop. U only bet the flop when u are against a big whale who is frequently calling with underpairs and A highs. Then u have more value exactly for 2 streets of betting.

But what if you put yourself into your opponents shoes there?

Hero makes a big raise to UTG's open raise so he represents a strong hand. And the loose passive called UTG's OR and your reraise to me this looks like 22-88 hands maybe even 99-TT.

Hero makes a half pot Cbet which is quite standard and could mean a K, a bluff or his actuall holding a big pocket pair, Hero never has a 7 here with this PF raise.

And when Hero checks on the turn it looks like he doesn't have the K I mean why would he check to a loose-passive player because he knows he won't get any action from him prob. and could turn his hand into a bluff.

But maybe its the other way around I am thinking way too much outside the box

But in general I Cbet the flop here 100% of the time he is just way too loose and the fact that he calls 2 raises PF gives me a feeling that he has a PP I would say that he had 77 here more often than a random Kx hand.

Atleast from my experiences loose-passive players would check behind with a K with a bad to mediocre kicker.

Hey Kokurus,

Thanks for your post, i do understand your point. Actually its not about we are afraid of being outfloped. Its more like we are afraid that K is a bad card for him either. Kind of action killer card. So to get a some value its more wise to check the flop and to check-call/bet the turn card to get an extra value from underpairs or A highs which try to get us fold.