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Sh3yk
Sh3yk
Joined: 15.04.2009
Posts: 31
26.08.2014, 02:59

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $36.04
SB: $40.45
BB: $25.00
UTG: $26.13
MP: $69.29
CO: $26.16

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q♥ Q♣

fold, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, fold, MP calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.10, 3 players) 4♣ 2♠ 5♠
MP bets $4.25, CO calls $4.25,Hero ??? calls $4.25

Turn: ($16.85, 3 players) 4♦

Well, everything I know is that both are donkeys, and we are deep against the one who donk bets. I expect at least one of them have FD, and the other maybe 66-JJ, or sort of pair+draw.

So, what's the best line here? Call and reavaliate turn? Re-raises/call? Fold?

And if we call, and villain keep betting, should we fold or push all-in on this turn?


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Tomaloc
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26.08.2014, 03:02

not the happiest spot ever, but i shove this turn. straights are A2, sets are blocked and i think he can show up with random Ax/FD/overpairs a decent amount


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_Anonymous_
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26.08.2014, 03:09

Hi Sh3yk

Preflop:looks fine

Postflop: MP did limp first so small pairs aren't out of the question. but the turn is great because it reduces the chances for sets. Co is likely to be on a draw or pair with draw.

Raising flop is definitely a fine option and as played I can't see us folding turn and calling with little behind doesn't make sense.


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Sh3yk
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26.08.2014, 17:44

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hi Sh3yk

Preflop:looks fine

Postflop: MP did limp first so small pairs aren't out of the question. but the turn is great because it reduces the chances for sets. Co is likely to be on a draw or pair with draw.

Raising flop is definitely a fine option and as played I can't see us folding turn and calling with little behind doesn't make sense.

Good Bogdan, and if we raise on the flop, the first donkey shoves and the second calls, we should call or fold?


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_Anonymous_
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26.08.2014, 20:12

What ranges would you give them?

It's all about what we put them on.

A pot donk followed by a shove can mean a lot, and if a second guy calls the pot donk and a shove it implies that he has something he really likes. So what ranges can they have?


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Sh3yk
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26.08.2014, 22:14

Originally posted by BogdanPS
What ranges would you give them?

It's all about what we put them on.

A pot donk followed by a shove can mean a lot, and if a second guy calls the pot donk and a shove it implies that he has something he really likes. So what ranges can they have?

First donkey sets, overpairs worst than mine, pair+draw, (some nuts FD maybe also) maybe some combos of two pairs (not sure). And the second one is probably on a draw, tending to FD.

So, against these ranges we might call given the pot odds, even if in general we are behind?


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27.08.2014, 19:12

MP is the guy you are about 150 deep with so as long as we can see worse hands in his range we can look at pot odds and go.

If we raise the flop we won't have much behind so our pot odds will be pretty good which means that we rarely have to be good.


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