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gnananandan
Joined: 24.06.2013

And thats why there is hatred for Fullring!

Poker Stars, Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 T
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, Hero calls, BTN calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls

Flop: (13 SB) T 8 J (6 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, BTN folds, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG+2 calls

Turn: (16.5 BB) 5 (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls, SB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls

River: (32.5 BB) T (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls, MP2 calls and is all-in

Final Board: T 8 J 5 T

Oh boy! Such a Big Pot. Cry and call the River! X(


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Congrats on platinum _cool:

Fullring has an element of Omaha: Don't draw to second nuts. Well, it's not that bad, but you know what I mean.

Conceivably, you could get away here on the turn when facing two bets. Count the outs and calculate the pot odds. There is more than probably a set out there. There is more than probably another 9 out there. This gives you less than 5 outs. You get 19.5:2, say 10:1 to call. You don't close the action, so, I'd say 7.5:1.

7.5:1 with 5 outs, and this estimate is optimistic, is a fold. There are no implied odds for the straight (but there are reverse implied odds). Likewise, there are no implied odds for hitting trips, but again reverse implied odds.


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gnananandan
Joined: 24.06.2013

Thank you Yohan.
Thats the reward for grinding hard since april. _biggrin:
Really? Fold this Turn with MP and OESD??
Yeah may be a somebody Flopped a Straight. But i thought i had plenty of outs to call on the Turn.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I ran this through Equilab, and it looks like a it is a call on the turn. The equity is somewhere around 16% if I get it right. With 4 bets to call on turn, this is borderline, but with 3 bets to call (as i put in my original estimate), it is a clear call.

The problem is that the one-card OESD doesn't pay that well if it hits. Everybody sees that the straight is there.


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

Flopplay is ok with pair and oesd and the chance to kick BU and buy the button and get a freecard opportunity on the Turn. If the Turn blanks, you should check the Turn behind since either Mp2 or Mp3 will have a better madehand. Given Odds of about 1:10 you cant fold your hand on the Turn with at least 6 Outs you're drawing on. Although mp3 showed to have the straight or a set or JT, mp2 donked out on the Turn. He did 3bet the Turn. Your hand is actually worth nothing on the River. After mp2 donked and MP3 raised again, mp3 will frequently have a boat and if not, at least have 97 or Q9. Fold River though the odds have been quite decent.


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