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joey1toe
Joined: 12.10.2010

UTG: 19/15 over 99 hands, AF 2.2 c.bet oop 50 (2)

Given the action can I call the river? I think when he makes that small bet otf and calls my raise he dose it with a FD maybe a weaker A but when he moves all in ott on that K he gives me a lot of grief _confused: ... so what do we do on the turn?

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Hero (BTN): $2.14
SB: $2.33
BB: $2.00
UTG: $2.41
MP: $1.00
CO: $2.09

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with Q :heart: A :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.15) A :spade: Q :club: 9 :club: (2 players)
UTG bets $0.07, Hero raises to $0.21, UTG calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.57) K :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.41, UTG raises to $2.14 all in, Hero folds


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi

The flop raise is reasonable. OTT vs a more passive opponent, I think the best line is to bet/fold (value from draws, and when he shoves over he probably has JTs or AK, not aggro enough to semi bluff with flush draws)

Could we have checked back the Turn though? I think there's a lot of value from so many draws and he will often continue c/c Turn with AJ/AT/AXs so

Nice hand


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Given the action can I call the river?

?( Ship river, if you get called you have outs.

On the serious side, call turn all day.


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joey1toe
Joined: 12.10.2010

?( Ship river, if you get called you have outs.

Hehe, my bad

On the serious side, call turn all day.

I'm too much of a nit to call that turn all day anyway why do you think calling is better than foling in this spot?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

it might seem like a no brainer call but note that this guy seems like a nit. Wouldn't be surprised if he was opening 12% only, meaning that he has very few combos of suited connectors (flush draws)


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It's only 99 hands tho. Hard to assume he is a nit at 2nl. Even if he is, we may distract JT. Sets pretty rare, so only hand which beat us is AK. But has a ton of other pair+ draw hands.
Board is so drawy to fold 2p since we raise flop bet turn. I believe villains at micros think KJs is the nuts to open UTG.

His line and turn size raise makes his range heavy polarized.

Dunno, prob you guys are right, that are only my thoughts. At these levels I'm ready to stack off TPGK. (not exactly on that board tho, too many face cards).

Here is what I think. Most of the micro players invest too much money and then fold. That's a huge leak. Every time you decide to bet/raise you have not know what are you going to do if you get reraised. Never make cry call/folds. Now what you are going to do, before you bet raise.

I see a lot in 3b pots, guys calls 3b IP or OPP doesnt matter then raise/fold flop or call flop raise/fold turn. bet/fold flop etc. That is a huge leak, it will cost you a ton of bb/100, include the rake and it's very hard to beat even micros with this type of plays. You could still beat them, but it will take a ton of time/hands.

Like in this hand, you raise flop (for value I assume), bet turn but dont know for what. Are betting turn for value or as a bluff? Since you folded I believe you bet it as a bluff. In general it is not a good idea to bet 2p at micros as a bluff. Once you have strong showdown hand (like in this case) go to the end. Or dont invest 1/2+ of your stack and then surrender.

A concept not brought up around the poker table for discussion often is “realizing your equity.” Knowing and familiarizing yourself with this idea will make you a much stronger player. This concept called "realizing your equity" has to do with the utility you get out of your hand’s equity. Not surprisingly, poker is a game of equities; this “math” behind the game often involves equity.

Remember EVERY TIME YOU DO THE MATH INCLUDE THE DEAD MONEY!!!! (money already in the pot)

There are two kinds of equity; there are Fold equity (FE), and Pot equity (PE). Equity is another word for “win the pot %.” Winning the pot at showdown or by villain folding before, the result is the same. For either outcome, we win what’s in the middle.
You’ll often here some of my friends say, “You need some kind of equity to bet in that situation.” We either need to have PE or FE. Sometimes, we can combine these two equity’s to make a solid bet; for example, barreling a draw on the turn!

So now that we have our foundation for equity, try to “realize our equity.” At the poker table, we are battling our opponents. The question becomes “What are we battling against them for? “

To answer, several things! At the poker table, in order to profit, there are a number of things we are trying to accomplish. We are trying to inflate pots in which we have the best hand (pressing an equity edge), take pots in which we don’t have the best hand (buying other players equity with bluffs), and finally, there is the “in between.”

“Realizing your equity” lies on the “in between” battle zone of poker. And here layes the REMEMBER THE DEAD MONEY IN THE POT. It’s like the silent hand that moves the market in economics. In war you could equate it to two submarine ships battling underneath the sea; no one sees it except those who are aware.

These “submarines” I’m talking about are simply our “in between” equity hands. If a hand like AK on K 5 6 flop is a high equity hand and 27o is a low equity hand, then something like 78, 89, or 67 would be the in between hands. These hands have “vulnerable equity” in that if we aren’t careful, villain could play in such a way that would force us to fold these hands before we get to see the river.


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joey1toe
Joined: 12.10.2010

Wow, awesome read! Thanks for taking the time to explain things _thumbsup: as for why I bet the turn, well in my fishy mind it was definitely still value but when villain shoved I figured he's more likely to have turned a straight or AK than to shove with equity, I ran this spot in equilab and we are a 38.29% underdog if the range that I gave villain is correct which is: QQ,99,AKs,A9s,KQs,K9s,Q9s,JTs,AcJc,KsJs,KcJc,QsJs,QcJc,AcTc,KsTs,KcTc,QsTs,QcTc,AKo,KQo,JTo ... I know I should have followed through most likely but against a more tight opponent it's a little hard to do, for me at least... question: how much equity do we need to make a profitable call on the turn?


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