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3bpot AA+nfd vs raise

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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

PokerStars - $1 Ante $0.20 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 529.19 BB (VPIP: 28.07, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 57)
UTG: 348.94 BB(VPIP: 28.38, PFR: 22.71, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 233)
Hero (MP): 269.54 BB
CO: 176.68 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 432.14 BB (VPIP: 52.21, PFR: 39.82, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 115)
SB: 195.8 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has 6♥ A♥ A♠ 6♠

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 11.7 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 8.7 BB

Flop: (26.1 BB, 2 players) 5♠ Q♠ 9♥
UTG checks, Hero bets 19.94 BB, UTG raises to 68 BB, Hero ?

villain was quit active postflop. i 3b this hand because first its strong second he saw me some hands before 3b same situation mid rundown JT89ds

whats ure line here vs the raise? just call and ev turn? like i said he was quit active. would a a shove here overplayed? on the other hand spr is about 1 ott

first in: 26% af flop 7,0 freq 57 raise cb 50% 2/4 fold 50% 2/4
bet turn 67% af turn 8,0 44%
wtsd 17 wsd 67


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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

would just 3bet shove flop, NFD, ovp, maybe a "6" turn give you the best hand, bdnfd etc... so a big equity, still alive against sets (who are the worst hand for you, and you've some ~38-42% equity vs it)

too many things to give up, and if you call here, with the 160bb pot turn and SPR < 1 you're commit on most turns

Moreover, such a drawy flop that he can be having big combodraws here (JTKx + spade draws, and things like that) that you're dominating with your NFD

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i've a question MrTrocks, on the most hands you post you're playing superdeep.

Is it a choice to play on deepish table ? (some pokerstars.com tables allow to sit in with 200bb i guess. don't play on it but i've read it don't remember where).

Do you do it because you like play it ? Or because they're more fishes on those tables ?

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personally I don't like play deep because

1- ye I think it's far more difficult than 100bb deep tables

2- and above all, playing that deep is SO MUCH frustrating

I mean, in 100bb deep games, there're many spots where you can put big dynamics preflop, play low SPR postflop and can make tons of no brainer gii flop (or turn), gambling EV+

and imo, that is why make this game so fun.

in 200bb+ games, I think that players are far more tight with their stackoff ranges (and it's logical, because the SPR is often way higher), so you can't put allin and gamble stacks as often than in 100bb deep games


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

yeah just gii.
players at deep tables are bad and make huge mistakes. sure the variance is crazy and you have to deal with losing 500bb+ pots but w/e i don't really mind it. just lost 600bb pot to 17% equity that shit just happens


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

Hi guys thanks for ure reply,

@Oz. about ure question: yes its my choice to play deep ante tables (i saw that KBE plays it and i take a shot on these tables some weeks ago). Also i try to start some deep ante tables.

The action is somethimes crazy. But like KBE said, most players on ante tables make big mistakes post/and preflop.

100bb tables are also very fishy but on deep tables u have some room to give them their rope and i think, that i have a good postflop experience and my game is quit "okay" to beat them

what i do is, that i play less tables and focus 150% when i play deep ante tables. but sure, u have to deal with loosing big pots when u are a huge favorite.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

yeah the ante games are really crazy so with an agro dynamic i would definetly gii otf... however if the villain is passive i'd just call.

Regards,

Skod


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

Originally posted by Skodljivec

however if the villain is passive i'd just call.

Regards,

Skod

and then? if a blanks comes (and what is a blank ott)? we have spr around 1 ott


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by MrTrocks

Originally posted by Skodljivec

however if the villain is passive i'd just call.

Regards,

Skod

and then? if a blanks comes (and what is a blank ott)? we have spr around 1 ott

Fold if he jams i guess. I know it's not the perfect play, but what alse can you do? If we put him on a range of mostly made hands, we save ourselves some money; but it's a shitty spot to be in for sure. Jamming the flop can't be a bad play. Just avoiding a sucky turn scenario

Regards,

Skod


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