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turn decision with bottom set 3way

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benaars
Joined: 03.06.2010

Hello,

Flop I think is quite standard , on the turn I am quite surprised that 2 players have called the raise and since flush completes I dont think I have a pure value-bet there. What would be your action on turn? Is it fine to b/c or do we have to b/f with this shallow of SPR on turn?

PKR, $75 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): 11,531 (115.3 bb)
BB: 10,150 (101.5 bb)
UTG: 10,425 (104.3 bb)
MP: 8,493 (84.9 bb)
CO: 9,375 (93.8 bb)
BTN: 8,974 (89.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 2
UTG folds, MP raises to 250, CO folds, BTN calls 250, Hero calls 200, BB folds

Flop: (850) 2 3 K (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets 425, BTN calls 425, Hero raises to 1,488, MP calls 1,063, BTN calls 1,063

Turn: (5,314) Q (3 players)
Hero???

Spoiler

Hero checks, MP bets 1,200, BTN folds, Hero calls 1,200

River: (7,714) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks


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Hi,

Check is usually fine since I don´t want to b/f set and I´m also not happy b/c.
They may easily have Kx hands or some worse showdown value than flushes, so I´m fine c/c turn and then evaluating river.

best regards,


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benaars
Joined: 03.06.2010

Thanks,

Spoiler

Turn: (5,314) Q (3 players)

Hero checks, MP bets 1,200, BTN folds, Hero calls 1,200

River: (7,714) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

How about when the initial raiser bets turn so small and folds out the BTN? Would you go ahead and raise here(shove) or just call? Do we have a valuebet on the given river?(shove?) I think we should shove here since we are anyway calling if he decides to shove on this non-spade river and if we x he might x back some Kx hands that we beat.


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Hi,

I think you´re quite often ahead on the turn, so shove is definitely fine. I just don´t think he is going to b/c too many Kx hands.
You may take following line: either c/r turn to 2500 and then shoving none spade rivers or c/c turn and then leading a little more than half pot on the river- that should get maximum value out of his Kx hands

best regards,


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010

I would just ch/c turn.
There are a lot of A:sK, KQ, AA, in their range on the turn.
River: I think you have only a very thin valuebet vs KQ hands on the river.

What would you play on Q:h river? After the turn line there is not so much flush in their range. There is no value vs AK,AA hands, they should fold it. So check/call or bet/fold?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

3-ways I like a check/decide as well. Once he bets so small and the other person folds I like a big check/raise here (likely check/shove).


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