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44 FT hot 75$ icm Q?

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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008
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PokerStars - $69+$6|20000/40000 Ante 5000 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 1,016,367 (VPIP: 34.57, PFR: 30.67, 3Bet Preflop: 17.24, Hands: 83)
SB: 1,246,590 (VPIP: 18.21, PFR: 13.88, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 1,375)
BB: 293,485 (VPIP: 15.17, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 147)
Hero (CO): 608,558

4 players post ante of 5,000, SB posts SB 20,000, BB posts BB 40,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 80,000) Hero has 4♥ 4♠

so pay jumps are
5,2k #4
6,9k #3
9,3k #2
13k #1

SB is reg other unknown, i'm expecting SB to shove wide on BB if fold to him ... and idk how wide will bb get it in vs me if i open/or shove

so what do u think?

shove?
fold?
r/c vs who and why?
r/f vs who and why


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010
Oldschool Grinder

I do not like the raise, because BU/SB would 3bet hero too wide and the 44 is not enough good for call.

To be honest 44 would be my the bottom of my push-range, but I have just checked in the HRC and 55-66+ is suggested with a very small +$EV. And I think BU /SB would call wider than nash (e.g.: BU: TT+/AQ+ nashrange), that's why just 77+ is profitable push.


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Hi,

Shove should be fine if you don´t want to make crying b/c.
Good thing about shoving 44 is that nobody is really going to call you (expect BB) hands like T9s, QJs that they might shove against your min-raise.
Only option I see myself b/f is when both BU and SB get all-in or if BU/SB shoves and BB calls.
With 500k I would always open shove, with 700k you might b/f . With 600k I would likely decide on table dynamics. If players have been open shoving 1M stacks, then nothing wrong shoving 4-handed 44 for 15bb especially since it seems stronger consider that BB has 5BB and would likely call close to 20% of his range (unless he is scared money and fold to 1bb)

best regards,


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
Elite Grinder

Hi all,

It's pretty top-heavy here. I'm fine with just shipping here. Also +1 to folding 22-33.


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