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dry ovp turn, 3bet pot mw drawy board, suicidal shove ?

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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

iPoker - €2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: €160.80 (VPIP: 87.99, PFR: 22.26, 3Bet Preflop: 4.21, Hands: 877)
MP: €67.64 (VPIP: 68.24, PFR: 12.80, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 2,063)
CO: €135.85 (VPIP: 90.43, PFR: 68.09, 3Bet Preflop: 30.77, Hands: 108)
Hero (BTN): €212.35
SB: €224.40 (VPIP: 68.02, PFR: 10.15, 3Bet Preflop: 2.79, Hands: 6,874)
BB: €141.75 (VPIP: 49.83, PFR: 23.65, 3Bet Preflop: 12.67, Hands: 3,133)

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has 6♦ K♦ K♠ J♣

UTG calls €2.00, MP calls €2.00, CO calls €2.00, Hero raises to €13.00, SB calls €12.00, fold, UTG calls €11.00, MP calls €11.00, CO calls €11.00

Flop: (€67.00, 5 players) 8♥ 7♥ Q♣
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€67.00, 5 players) 3♣
SB checks, UTG bets €22.00, MP calls €22.00, CO calls €22.00, Hero raises to €177.00, fold, UTG calls €125.80, MP calls €32.64, fold

Spoiler

River: (€439.24, 3 players) Q♦

UTG shows 5♥ 7♠ T♥ 8♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Eights) (Pre 30%, Flop 64%, Turn 64%)
MP shows 6♥ 4♥ T♦ 4♦ (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (Pre 21%, Flop 23%, Turn 22%)
Hero shows 6♦ K♦ K♠ J♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (Pre 49%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins €436.24

well the table is special.
Full big fish table (only BB is a kind of bad reg), tables like you can find on PLO5-PLO10, with all players always limping/coldcalling preflop, playing 4way/5way/6way pots all day long etc...
Postflop don't fold since dès got oesd or FD 7+ high

Juicy table (but can be tilty too).

Well preflop I raise my KKxx, all table call

Flop

???

single raised flop, but as there're limps+raise+4coldcalls preflop, the pot is now superbig.

Villain are not caving max (80bb max) except SB
SPR ~2, 2.5 against all the table.

But 78x + FD flop, super drawy...

well really don't know, with this low SPR but against all this people, the board isn't being straighty or flushy yet, should I just pot/call ?

Turn

well, this UTG guy is allways doing that, lolbetting blanky turns when everybody check the flop, to steal the pot.

He can have everything here, TP, any FD, oesd, total air etc...
I think big made hands (DPs, Sets) would have bet more expensive, because the board is superdrawy (needs value/protection), and on this table full of stations, he would allways get a call.

MP is another fish station, that would call everything since he got any FD or oesd

... well I think my ovp is still alive as overpair (doesn't face many DPs/sets as often as that, more draws).
Even if I don't win the full pot, I have an interesting side pot against UTG (if it goes in 3way and MP wins the main pot for example)


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

honestly i would never conisder potting here, like ever. I can't see how your overpair is good at this point; everyone has something here, and i doubt you have any FE when you jam. Seems like a terrible play. On Q87ss alone when it's 4way someone has 2 pair at least, and here if you gii mw, it often happens that even when your KK is live ott, there are just no blanks in the deck for you.

Regards,

Skod


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