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MagXedin
Joined: 10.10.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
SB ($516)
BB ($494)
Hero ($494)
UTG+1 ($688)
CO ($364)
BTN ($444)

Dealt to Hero Q♣ T♣

Hero raises to $60, UTG+1 calls $60, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($183) Q♦ A♣ 2♣

Hero bets $91, UTG+1 calls $91

TURN ($365) Q♦ A♣ 2♣ 9♥

Hero bets $340 (AI), UTG+1 calls $340

RIVER ($1,045) Q♦ A♣ 2♣ 9♥ 6♣

fish
idont get turn. like if i dont have Q i shove semibluff. and if i have Q why do i shove? like make better Q fold? not gonna happen i think. shove for value from other draws?


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Bit loose pre IMO from this position. I like the turn shove for those reasons you mentioned! You can definitely get a better Q to fold and MAYBE he even folds a weak ace (if he is a fish). With 1 SPR you can't fold this hand so shoving is the max EV way to get your chips in.


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MagXedin
Joined: 10.10.2010

about qts opening - its a news for me. Its like 15% can one be more tight? what range do you prefer to open then in this spot?
about fish folding weakA - i always considered fish as a player who never folds if he has something. ofc there are different types of those but in general my impression is that he s not folding even weak queens. i probably have a lot of wrong general assumptions =/


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Remember you are only 17~bbs deep, this is the kind of hand that has a lot of value if you see a flop but that is unlikely in this position and stack-size. I think it is OK to open this occasionally on some tables, but in general I would say fold and stick to KQs+.
It depends on the fish, loose fish never fold, tight fish will often commit bets but never put their stack in the middle without a very strong hand . I'm not saying any player will always fold top pair to 2 barrels, I'm just saying it is possible (way more likely he folds 2nd pair which is very good for you).


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MagXedin
Joined: 10.10.2010

ok i keep thinkng about this one. do i open utg on t30 blinds like AT KQ 66 ? its kinda super tight no? and on t20 i can open suited broadway because postflop is much more likely?
if passive fish on BB i can add suited broadway here anyway right?


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sounds about right. even that might be too loose. the best hyper players in hte world have around 12% EP open at t20-30.


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MagXedin
Joined: 10.10.2010

ok, i did smth likie this in HM1
deselected cards ATo+ A8s+ KJs+ QJs+ KJo+ 55+ filtered bb=20/30 early position and 1raiser utg.
gives 600hands i raised from utg on this blind levels with cards not included in range above. it shows 20bb/100(ev). if deselected range is tighter like AT KQ 66, then i have 30ebb/100
so it seems i should keep raising this stuff right? i actually should play hand if its better than -10bb/100 (antees) right?


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if you think it is profitable, keep doing what you are doing. My advice is just my opinion. I think looking at those results is meaningless, your sample size is way too small.


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MagXedin
Joined: 10.10.2010

thats why i am here - to listen to your opinion) i think i ll rase all this stuff if on BB is passive fish. should be fine.
regarding winrates - i filtered hands by number of players and my evbb/100 is like 2+ for 4,5,6 ; 1 for bubble, and 0,5 for HU. does it mean im bad on the bubble and in HU, or is it just because of the fact, that more regs get into those late stages? or does it just say nothing?


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yeah i think you have the right idea. it depends a lot on the table whether to raise those hands UTG. Sometimes I do, most of the time I won't.

It's hard to say unless you have a big sample size.


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