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$15 Low blinds SB completion situation 86s

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Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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Hero (SB): 1,420 (47.3 bb)
BB: 1,500 (50 bb) [21/16]
UTG+2: 1,480 (49.3 bb)
MP1: 1,440 (48 bb)
MP2: 3,360 (112 bb)
MP3: 1,470 (49 bb)
CO: 1,360 (45.3 bb)
BTN: 1,470 (49 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 6
UTG+2 calls 30, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 30, MP3 folds, CO calls 30, BTN folds, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: (150) Q 5 7 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets 60, Hero calls 60, BB raises to 300, 3 folds, Hero calls 240

Turn: (810) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets 470, Hero raises to 1,090 and is all-in

I decide to complete with a speculative hand and flop an OESD and a backdoor 8 high flush draw.
I have 6 clean outs and 2 more that would make a flush and a straight for me, so I decide calling getting more than 2 to 1 (30% actually) even though I'm out of position.

I turn the nuts and decide to check/raise. Should I just bet instead? I think that every made hand is betting the turn to protect itself against a flush draw that I might have, and with a low SPR I can check/raise and get it in more often than if I bet.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

It's close on the flop since we don't get direct odds, however, we do get some really good implied odds as our hand stays a bit hidden-people will get cautious only when the FD completes. That is the upside of the things. Another small upside-we have backdoor FD. The downside is that some of our outs bring a third club and that might kill the action or complete some of their semi-bluffs/draws. Another upside is that we can bluff river if we a club comes and he checks back. All in all, I think it's really close call on the flop and tbh, I think I am not a big fan of it. Just because our outs are not very clear and also even if he checks back on the turn-it doesn't mean we can make him fold with a river shove.

As played-I also shove turn, he is committed.


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Do you shove turn or check/shove?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I think flop call is bit too optimistic. Turn is clear check-shove for me as turn card is not scare card for villain so he is likely going to continue betting if he has value. If he was bluffing or semi-bluffing turn he is likely to fold versus donk shove where as he can still continue versus check.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

If I call, I just check/shove :)


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