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kasmv
Joined: 06.12.2008

Hi, the villain is a reg: 20% steal from CO, cbet flop oop 51%, 2nd barr 69%, wtsd 22%;
I try to pick up the pot ott and he x/r me, but I can't really come up with a lot of strong hands that he could play like that, I mean does anybody play sets or 2pair types of hands like that?
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $17.41 (69.6 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
MP: $16.01 (64 bb)
CO: $30.74 (123 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 Q Q J
MP folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 2 8 J (2 players)
CO bets $1.47, Hero calls $1.47

Turn: ($4.99) K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3.75, CO raises to $16.03, Hero raises to $22.68 and is all-in, CO calls $6.65

River: ($50.35) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$50.35 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 2 8 J K A
CO showed K 6 K 9 and won $48.35 ($23.35 net)
Hero showed 5 Q Q J and lost (-$25 net)

-thanks, Max


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

here you are just destroyed by a c/r range. You are never ever in a good enough shape here to get it in. This is a clear b/f spot if you want to play it like this. You can also check behind the turn.

People will especially play sets like this and 2 pair because it's a double flushdraw board. He could also have a combodraw wit the nfd and the K and against most of his range you are basically drawing close to dead.

So here ott your thought process is really wrong if you don't see many strong hands play it like this. Do you see weak hands playing it like this?

Regards,

Skod


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kasmv
Joined: 06.12.2008

Thanks for the answer, Skod!
I don't see weak hands(well some bluffs), but I do see a lot of semibluffs. The thing is I haven't thought that it's a good tactic to play sets or 2pair x/r ott, I follow through with a bet ott like every single time when I have anything big. So how can we divide our range here into x/r and 2nd barr as pre agr?

- thanks, Max.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

the problem here is that you are behind most of his semibluffs. So you are putting a lot of money in in a situation where you hope you have like 55% equity at best, but could potentially have less than 10%.

About the c/r turn tactic it usually depends on your opponents agression. If he is agressive you can try and c/r a set here, but if he's not you have to bet it yourself to protect. The problem with betting is obvious; say you have JJ here and you bet, villain calls. Now what do you do if the river is a 7,9,T,Q,A? What do you do on clubs? What do you do on hearts? All in all, that's waaay more than half a deck there. So if one of those cards hit you are usually forced to c/f or make an iffy c/c; so if you can avoid that by c/r and leveraging your stack in, then you are simplifying the hand for yourself.

Hope this helps,

Skod


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