Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

KK CO vs UTG open and SB call on wet flop?

2 Posts
2 Users
0 Reactions
157 Views
IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 114.14 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.69, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 5.68, Hands: 202)
SB: 367.86 BB (VPIP: 29.94, PFR: 22.75, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 170)
BB: 117.66 BB (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.32, Hands: 226)
UTG: 105.3 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP: 52.5 BB (VPIP: 24.09, PFR: 8.76, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 138)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ K♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 6♥ 9♣ 7♥
SB checks, UTG bets 6.7 BB, Hero calls 6.7 BB, SB raises to 19 BB, UTG calls 12.3 BB, Hero calls 12.3 BB

Turn: (67 BB, 3 players) 5♣
SB bets 42 BB, fold, fold

SB wins 63.98 BB

UTG 27 hands 36/28 , UTG 0/1 hands
SB 170 hands 30/23 , call steal from SB 1/8 hands (this particular hand)

I decide to flat KK from CO for 2 main reasons
- Balance my defend range with some of the top range as well
- Hope for squeeze from SB who seems aggro with 30/23 and 3 bet total 9.5 on 170 hands

I would assign UTG standard range of most PPs (55+), A10s+,AJo+,KQo,KJs,QJs,J10s.
Since it is readless I would always assume tighter open then say hands with 10xs and even more suited connectors like 109s,98s,87s etc

SB overcalls/flats in those spots some sort of capped range. I would think here with big stack that he will flat all PPs for set minning as well as connectors and BDWS for immplied odds. I feel that top of the range and Ax type of hands he would 3 squeeze here as he seems more aggro.

Flop is 6h9c7h

There is now in UTGs range following hands that he c bets:
Overpairs (1010-AA) total 25 combos (excluding my KK)
2 overs and FD (A10s,AJs,AQs = 3 combos)
2 overs with BDFD (AJo AQo AKo = 6 + 6 + 2 = 8 combos)
Sets 9 combos
Since this is multi way hand I don't expect him to c bet bluf in those spots so he c bets total 45 combos.

SB range will c/raise in those spots something like:
Sets 9 combos
2 overs and FD but with J10s (1 combo) Q10s(1 combo) and I don't expect many Ah10h AhJh AhQh as I would expect him to squezze those , if not it is additional 3 combos.
For bluff c/raise or some sort of semi value would be 6 combos of 88 or 1010 another 6 combos (total 12)
So total c/raise range here is 14 + 12 = 26 combos

I am on top of my bluff catch range so I decided to call flop and fold to turns that complete heart FD as well as SDs with 5, 8, or 10 comming out.
I expect UTG to call c/raise from SB with some sort of draw or weaker overpair with one heart for bd or even bdsd.
When opponent double barells in multi way I never expect him to have anything less than a set or completed straight here.

Questions:

Was my thinking process correct here?
If not how would you have played differently this hand?
Isn't there to many outs for opponents on turn and should I therefore consider raising UTGs bet flop?
If I do raise UTG's c bet I would assume calling 3 bet shove is totally out of question as I would not expect anything less then sets here? If they 3 bet shove overpairs that I have crushed then I have far easier call, even easier if they add Axs combos for overs and FD.
How do we adjust here if we are dealing with 100bb stacks compared to 40-50bb stacks?

Appreciate all your responses!


Reply
Quote
1 reply
Coach
w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Usually IP it's good to go ahead and raise this hand for value. It's fine to play raise/fold when facing a 3bet.

Flatting is not great because a) there are many bad turn cards b) we can still extract value with a raise and c) our opponents are going to have a greater amount of combined equity vs us and there is a significant advantage to be had here by protecting our hand.

Turn is the exact kind of situation we want to avoid. We can't really call on the turn yet we are aware there is the possibility we are folding the best hand. The main difference if we had 50bb stacks instead of 100bb stacks is that we can potentially stack off on the flop depending on UTG's tendencies. He is more likely to 3b shove draws or worse overpairs when there is less to play for.


Reply
Quote