I need help badugi

you are playing too passively.

1st hand, you should be betting for value all the way with an 8 which is a strong hand.

2nd hand, you should bet for value, j983 is not strong against another badugi or several players drawing 1 to good badugi's but against players drawing 3 and 2 cards it is very strong (as long as they continue to draw). this hand is one that you might not want to value bet the river with because your not doing well against reasonable calling ranges.

3rd hand, your 3 card 10 is very weak you have no showdown value. draw 2 because you are more likely to make a strong 3 card badugi which you can call a bet from a player who drew 1 or value bet than you are to make a 10 badugi.

I'm no expert on Badugi, but I agree with what badgerer said.

Generally speaking, it doesn't really make sense to check a predraw badugi down to the last betting round. If you decide to play it, you need to show aggression, since you don't want to give your opponents free draws - remember that they'll almost always have you beat if they hit their own badugi. As long as they're drawing, however, you can be sure that you're ahead, so you should put the money in at that point. Besides, you're hand is pretty much face up if you stand pat and keep checking.

Thanks badgerer;you`re the best. are you a reg?
some questions
1) in the firts hand:if I raise and the villane re-raise.what happen?what is my probably to win this hand?what I do?
2) when my hands are ev+? how calculate that?

I`m sorry for my question of fish but I`m new

Thanks Harrier88 for the help.

later I will play a freeroll and I tell them how its goes.bye

ha your welcome.

i was a reg but i've moved on to mtt's so not any more.

1) in fixed limit you should not fold but pot limit its a much harder decision, this is probably one of the best hands i would consider folding but it very much depends on the opponents tendencies and how strong your perceived range is, for example if you were pat from the start your opponents will put you on a weaker range, the average dealt pat hand is something like a rough jack or a smooth queen badugi. in this case you drew 1 so your range is stronger and you dont really beat many legitimate raising hands.

2) im not sure i understand the question? if you are pat and your opponent is drawing you are basicly always a favourite except in extreme situations where you might be very slightly behind but only on the first draw. its actually not that likely that a 3 card hand will make a strong badugi. you can find a few different sources of information on badugi odds using google.

HI
I`m frustrated,I`m sad.
I play a freeroll and play 3 hands nothing more and lost.I know I played bad insurance but I don´t know what to do.
I have some hands to evaluate,please tell me my mistake. I want to improve in the badugi. ♠_biggrin:

1)
Poker Stars Freeroll Pot Limit Badugi Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 8 players -

UTG+1: t1180 29.50 BBs
MP1: t1460 36.50 BBs
MP2: t4880 122 BBs
CO: t940 23.50 BBs
BTN: t1410 35.25 BBs
SB: t1460 36.50 BBs
Hero (BB): t1490 37.25 BBs
UTG: t5400 135 BBs

Pre Draw: (t60) Hero is BB with T 5 3 2
UTG calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises to t220, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls t180, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t180

First Draw: (t720) (3 players)
Hero draws 1, UTG+1 draws 1, CO stands pat
Hand: Q 5 3 2
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets t720 all in, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls t720

Second Draw: (t2160) (2 players - 1 is all in)
UTG+1 draws 1, CO stands pat

Third Draw: (t2160) (2 players - 1 is all in)
UTG+1 stands pat, CO stands pat

Final Pot: t2160
UTG+1 shows A 9 6 4 (3-card: 6,4,A)
CO shows J 8 6 2 (Badugi: J,8,6,2)
CO wins t2160

2)
Poker Stars Freeroll Pot Limit Badugi Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 7 players -

BB: t1460 36.50 BBs
UTG: t4880 122 BBs
UTG+1: t2500 62.50 BBs
MP: t1410 35.25 BBs
CO: t1440 36 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1250 31.25 BBs
SB: t5280 132 BBs

Pre Draw: (t60) Hero is BTN with K T 7 3
UTG calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40, MP folds, CO folds, Hero calls t40, SB calls t20, BB folds

First Draw: (t200) (4 players)
SB draws 3, UTG draws 1, UTG+1 draws 2, Hero draws 1
Hand: T 7 6 3
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t200, Hero folds, SB folds, UTG calls t200

Second Draw: (t600) (2 players)
UTG draws 1, UTG+1 draws 1
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t600, UTG calls t600

Third Draw: (t1800) (2 players)
UTG stands pat, UTG+1 stands pat
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks

Final Pot: t1800
UTG shows Q 7 5 2 (Badugi: Q,7,5,2)
UTG wins t1800

3)
Poker Stars Freeroll Pot Limit Badugi Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 7 players -

BTN: t1440 24 BBs
SB: t7320 122 BBs
BB: t16855 280.92 BBs
UTG: t1390 23.17 BBs
UTG+1: t1380 23 BBs
Hero (MP): t1140 19 BBs
CO: t5460 91 BBs

Pre Draw: (t90) Hero is MP with 9 5 4 3
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t210, CO folds, BTN folds, SB raises to t480, BB folds, Hero raises to t1140 all in, SB calls t660

First Draw: (t2340) (2 players - 1 is all in)
SB stands pat, Hero draws 1
Hand: 5 4 3 3

Second Draw: (t2340) (2 players - 1 is all in)
SB stands pat, Hero draws 1
Hand: J 5 4 3

Third Draw: (t2340) (2 players - 1 is all in)
SB stands pat, Hero draws 1
Hand: 7 5 4 3

Final Pot: t2340
SB shows A T 9 8 (Badugi: T,9,8,A)
Hero shows 7 5 4 3 (3-card: 5,4,3)
SB wins t2340

have you some strategy about tournament or cash?
bye

dont worry about it, its only a freeroll. your playing to gain experience right?

1st hand is fine

2nd hand fold pre, try to avoid drawing 2 cards unless its free or in pot limit sometimes you can overlimp in position with 2 cards lower than 5 because you have implied odds.

3rd hand, SB's 3 bet looks strong but we cant know for sure seeing as this is a freeroll there is always suspicion that they are overvaluing a worse draw or maybe they dont even know the rules and are patting without a badugi. seeing as you have nearly a quarter of your stack in already i dont mind your shove but perhaps a better option here is to minraise pre and decide between calling in position or folding if you get raised.

In the second hand.Can you explain more about my implied odds? because I cant understand.I dont know how calculate that.
and in the 3rd hand, I think that,the villane have a high badugi,or a god tri hand or lower case don`t know the rules anything. ♦
like you got reason, I would to minraise pre and look where I stand.
thanks badgerer

implied odds

well I study some of out,odds,pot odds and implied odds.and win my first session in play money( I know for you is nothing but to me is good ♦)
I have some hands to evaluate

1)
PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 5 players

BB: $415.00
UTG: $990.00 (Hero)
CO: $120.00
Button: $2,907.00
SB: $235.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (5 players)
Hero calls $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, SB calls $5, BB checks

First Draw: ($50.00) (5 players)
SB discards 2, BB discards 1, Hero discards 1, CO stands, Button discards 2,
||
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $10, Button calls $10, SB calls $10, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10

Second Draw: ($100.00) (5 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 1, Hero discards 1, CO stands, Button discards 2,
||
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $20, Button folds, SB calls $20, BB calls $20, Hero folds

Third Draw: ($160.00) (3 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 1, CO stands, SB checks, BB checks, CO bets $20, SB folds, BB calls $20

BB showed , a Badugi: T,4,2,A
CO showed , a Badugi: J,9,8,3
BB won $195
(Rake: $5)

2)
PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 5 players

Button: $500.00
SB: $960.00 (Hero)
BB: $350.00
UTG: $60.00
CO: $145.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (5 players)
UTG raises to $20, CO calls $20, Button calls $20, Hero folds, BB folds

First Draw: ($75.00) (3 players)
UTG discards 1, CO discards 3, Button discards 2, UTG bets $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10

Second Draw: ($105.00) (3 players)
UTG stands, CO discards 1, Button discards 1, UTG bets $20, CO calls $20, Button calls $20

Third Draw: ($165.00) (3 players)
UTG stands, CO discards 1, Button discards 1, UTG bets $10 and is all-in, CO calls $10, Button folds

UTG showed , a Badugi: Q,5,3,2
CO showed , a Badugi: J,9,4,3
CO won $180
(Rake: $5)

3)

PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 3 players

BB: $450.00
Button: $955.00 (Hero)
SB: $265.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (3 players)
Hero calls $10, SB calls $5, BB checks

First Draw: ($30.00) (3 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 3, Hero discards 1,
||
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Second Draw: ($30.00) (3 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 2, Hero discards 1,
||
SB bets $20, BB calls $20, Hero calls $20

Third Draw: ($90.00) (3 players)
SB stands, BB discards 2, Hero discards 1,
||
SB bets $20, BB folds, Hero folds

SB collected $86

(Rake: $4)

4)
PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 7 players

UTG+1: $400.00
HJ: $910.00 (Hero)
CO: $860.00
Button: $330.00
SB: $423.00
BB: $390.00
UTG: $201.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (7 players)
UTG calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, Hero calls $10, CO checks, Button calls $10, SB calls $5, BB checks

First Draw: ($60.00) (7 players)
SB discards 2, BB discards 2, UTG discards 2, UTG+1 discards 3, Hero discards 1, CO discards 3, Button discards 3,
||
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks

Second Draw: ($60.00) (7 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 1, UTG discards 1, UTG+1 discards 2, Hero discards 1, CO discards 1, Button discards 2,
||
SB checks, BB bets $20, UTG calls $20, UTG+1 calls $20, Hero calls $20, CO calls $20, Button folds, SB calls $20

Third Draw: ($180.00) (6 players)
SB discards 1, BB stands, UTG discards 1, UTG+1 discards 1, Hero stands, CO discards 1,

SB checks, BB bets $20, 2 folds, Hero calls $20, 2 folds

Hero mucked
BB showed , a Badugi: 6,5,3,A
BB won $225
(Rake: $5)

5)

PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 6 players

SB: $350.00
BB: $860.00 (Hero)
UTG: $830.00
UTG+1: $448.00
CO: $563.00
Button: $131.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (6 players)
UTG calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, SB calls $5, Hero checks

First Draw: ($60.00) (6 players)
SB discards 2, Hero discards 2, UTG discards 1, UTG+1 discards 3, CO discards 2, Button discards 1,
||
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Button checks

Second Draw: ($60.00) (6 players)
SB discards 1, Hero discards 1, UTG discards 1, UTG+1 discards 2, CO discards 1, Button discards 1,
||
SB checks, Hero bets $20, 2 folds, CO raises to $40, 2 folds, Hero calls $20

Third Draw: ($140.00) (2 players)
Hero stands, CO stands,

Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20

Hero mucked
CO showed , a Badugi: 5,4,3,A
CO won $175
(Rake: $5)

bye

Hi, yesterday I win a ticket in the freeroll of badugi
later get some hands I am happy ♦

Congrats, mate! Great job!

1) raise pre draw 1, calldown is fine as pot is big and villain is pat pre therefore has a weaker range.

2) easy fold.

3) raise pre keep betting until you get resistance, as played fold if SB is passive (they probably are in this game) otherwise its fine.

4) raise pre keep betting, patting the J is standard, check call on river is ok.

5) i draw 3 on 1st but many would draw 2 here, i think its better to try to draw a strong 3 card hand as a 3 card 7 is not strong, as played cap the 7 after 2nd then bet/call after 3rd.

1)
Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 6 players

Button: $340.00
SB: $790.00 (Hero)
BB: $820.00
UTG: $438.00
UTG+1: $668.00
CO: $521.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (6 players)
UTG calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, Hero calls $5, BB checks

First Draw: ($60.00) (6 players)
Hero discards 1, BB discards 1, UTG discards 2, UTG+1 discards 2, CO discards 2, Button discards 2,
||
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, Hero folds, BB calls $10, UTG folds

Second Draw: ($100.00) (4 players)
BB discards 1, UTG+1 stands, CO discards 2, Button discards 1, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $20, CO calls $20, Button raises to $40, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $60, CO folds, Button raises to $80, UTG+1 calls $20

Third Draw: ($280.00) (2 players)
UTG+1 stands, Button stands, UTG+1 bets $20, Button raises to $40, UTG+1 raises to $60, Button raises to $80, UTG+1 calls $20

Button showed , a Badugi: 6,4,3,2
UTG+1 mucked
Button won $435
(Rake: $5)

1)
Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 6 players

Button: $340.00
SB: $790.00 (Hero)
BB: $820.00
UTG: $438.00
UTG+1: $668.00
CO: $521.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (6 players)
UTG calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, Hero calls $5, BB checks

First Draw: ($60.00) (6 players)
Hero discards 1, BB discards 1, UTG discards 2, UTG+1 discards 2, CO discards 2, Button discards 2,
||
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $10, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, Hero folds, BB calls $10, UTG folds

Second Draw: ($100.00) (4 players)
BB discards 1, UTG+1 stands, CO discards 2, Button discards 1, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $20, CO calls $20, Button raises to $40, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $60, CO folds, Button raises to $80, UTG+1 calls $20

Third Draw: ($280.00) (2 players)
UTG+1 stands, Button stands, UTG+1 bets $20, Button raises to $40, UTG+1 raises to $60, Button raises to $80, UTG+1 calls $20

Button showed , a Badugi: 6,4,3,2
UTG+1 mucked
Button won $435
(Rake: $5)

I think I would draw 3 on 1st,is a good fold? what you think?

2)
Converted by the cows of Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars Limit Badugi $10/$20 - 7 players

BB: $670.00
UTG: $780.00 (Hero)
UTG+1: $600.00
HJ: $380.00
CO: $128.00
Button: $1,118.00
SB: $281.00

Dealing Hands: ($15.00) (7 players)
Hero calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, HJ calls $10, CO raises to $20, Button calls $20, SB calls $15, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, HJ calls $10

First Draw: ($140.00) (7 players)
SB discards 2, BB discards 2, Hero discards 1, UTG+1 discards 1, HJ discards 3, CO stands, Button discards 2,
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SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, HJ checks, CO bets $10, Button calls $10, SB calls $10, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $20, UTG+1 calls $20, HJ folds, CO raises to $30, Button calls $20, SB calls $20, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10

Second Draw: ($320.00) (6 players)
SB discards 1, BB stands, Hero discards 1, UTG+1 discards 1, CO stands, Button discards 1,
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SB checks, BB bets $20, Hero calls $20, UTG+1 calls $20, CO raises to $40, Button calls $40, SB calls $40, BB raises to $60, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls $40, CO raises to $78 and is all-in, Button calls $38, SB calls $38, BB calls $18, UTG+1 calls $18

Third Draw: ($730.00) (5 players)
SB discards 1, BB stands, UTG+1 discards 1, CO stands, Button discards 1, SB checks, BB bets $20, 3 folds

BB showed , a Badugi: 7,6,4,3
CO showed , a Badugi: Q,9,8,2
BB won $725
(Rake: $5)

I call because is a multiway pot,is a good call?. In a second draw,I don`t know what I did.