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tukioppilas62
Joined: 01.01.2011

Villain is 27/18, 141 hands, flop cbet could be bigger with intention to barrel depending on board. Anyhow smaller size should be fine, given his stats he is probably fishy and not paying atention. Turn is close between going for value or not. How to play the river? He bet it quite so I think it should take more time usually to consider bluffing missed flushdraw and we are perceived to have TT, 99, 8x a lot. But does a fishy player understand it or not.... Anyhow just considering our range we could bluffcatch TT, 99 so folding one of the weakest 9x should not be bad.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $54.69 (109.4 bb)
BB: $241.68 (483.4 bb)
UTG: $118.12 (236.2 bb)
MP: $60.18 (120.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $83.80 (167.6 bb)
BTN: $150.93 (301.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) J J 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($7.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.55, Hero calls $5.55

River: ($18.85) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$18.85 pot ($0.85 rake)
Final Board: J J 4 8 5
Hero mucked 9 8 and lost (-$9.05 net)
BTN mucked and won $18 ($8.95 net)


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mysteryman21
Joined: 18.09.2010

I am fine with folding, interesting size by villian though(looks like he is getting value from our pairs)

p.s. what about QQ+, I assume you bet it twice?


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tukioppilas62
Joined: 01.01.2011

Yes you are right we even have QQ+ in our range.


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tukioppilas62
Joined: 01.01.2011

Even though I'm not sure if villain is station if it's better to 3barrel QQ+ (he often checks back missed draws and calls happily down w. any twopair).


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mysteryman21
Joined: 18.09.2010

seems good to triple, but dont like that texture a lot. maybe JJ8(flop)( since he is gonna have 8x to call 3 streets)


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you should of lead out on the turn and bluff catched the river, I think villain would call with hands like AQ,kq 66,77 flush draws, the only hands that beat you is JX TT 99 we can assume QQ+ 3bet pre the only hand I can see betting the river is jx and the odd slow played set witch might shove TT 99 would probly check behind after calling 2 streets as 2/3 bet on the turn


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tukioppilas62
Joined: 01.01.2011

Yes he might sometimes call as wide as AQ and KQ but he is highest likely going to bet with his floats on the turn and if he checks it back we have an pretty easy value bet on most non :club: rivers. I think the EV of betting and checking on turn is very similar the looser his range and calling range the better it becomes to bet. Villain still has quite a lot of Jx in his range and betting the turn with this handstrenght is imo a bit loose against 27/18 player. If he would be 50/10 then it would be pretty easy vbet. Bluffcatching the river here vs. his valuelooking betsize.... I think it would be borderline. We still have plenty of better hands in our range and villain's turn bet looks strong and river bet looks like valuebet. So his betsizes make sense and when that happens by a fish it's like 100% value true my experience. If he would have bet 2dollars on turn and then forexample pot betted the river I would be much more happy to call.


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Hi Tuki,

Just to add a few things...

If you expect him to be fisshy why not bet the turn yourself?

Furthermore, if you bet turn small (which I prefer) you can let him bluff the river with his weaker hands. And expect Jx to raise turn.


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