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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

$0.05/$0.10 Zoom No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($9.55) 96bb
UTG+1 ($17.95) 180bb
CO ($17.70) 177bb
sirilidion (BTN) ($14.71) 147bb
SB ($3.88) 39bb
BB ($13.14) 131bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) sirilidion is BTN A♦ 10:diamond:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, sirilidion calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: J♥ 8♦ K♦ ($1, 3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $0.30, sirilidion raises to $0.90, SB folds, CO calls $0.60

Turn: Q♠ ($2.80, 2 players)
CO checks, sirilidion bets $1.80, CO calls $1.80

River: 3♣ ($6.40, 2 players)
CO checks, sirilidion bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20

Final Pot: $14.80

I only have 12 hands on villian but so far he seems a bit fishy with a VPIP of 36 and a PFR of 18. When I made the nuts on the turn is this about the right betsize or do you think I could have sqeeuzed some more value out of this hand?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

2,20


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

turn sizing is super low. i highly doubt he folds pretty much anything on his flop range to pretty much any sizing


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

I don't know that I like flop raising when our value raising range is so narrow. No KK no JJ no K8 no J8. Doesn't leave a lot really.


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Hi metza,

If both players are fishy, I don't think we should care about having a narrow value raising range. But calling doesn't seem bad to me, we can possibly keep two fishy players in the pot and if we hit turn, we just have to make the pot bigger.

Hi sirilidion,

Why not raising bigger flop?


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006

He sirilidion,

Our coach BogdanPS wrote an interesting highlight threads about that you should not be afraid to make it bigger on the river, a.k.a. ALLIN!

https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=1987348#post1987348

btw, I also find the flop size strange. It is yelling "I have the draw myself" to all the other players. With AKo you wouldn't make it only 90c, would you ?


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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

@ SvenBe: In fact I would make it 0.90 with AK too. Why, is it to little?


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Anomic
Joined: 15.01.2012

I would raise flop to like 1,30, bet turn 4/5, shove river


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006

Because I bet my bluffs and valuehands the same unless it is an exploit.
Therefore: drawy flop-> big bet, dry flop -> small bet


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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

@ SvenBe: 0.9 is still almost 3/4 pot would say it is that small of a bet.
@ metza depending on the opponents and those behind me I could easily have J8,JJ,88,KJ and maybe if the blinds are really sqeeuze happy I could even have KK to induce a 3bet.


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Mon3yMaChin3
Joined: 15.03.2011

Originally posted by Tomaloc
turn sizing is super low. i highly doubt he folds pretty much anything on his flop range to pretty much any sizing

+1


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Originally posted by sirilidion
0.9 is still almost 3/4 pot would say it is that small of a bet.

A raise to $0.90 is not even a 1/2 pot sized raise: a half pot sized raise would be a raise to $1.10. You can check that by looking at the odds given to Villain for a call. If you raise to $1.10, the odds for a call are 0.8 / 3.2 = 25%.

A 3/4 pot sized raise would be a raise to $1.50.

Your raise is a 37.5% pot sized raise.


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006