34 bottom pair

honestly i would just fold right away with 43 and with T4 i would call flop and the turn

for T4 remember the villain AF is 0.33, he has tp+ sure

so ? you still got 2nd pair and you do have the opportunity to get the T or even the 4.. Thats too much for me to worry about him having TP. and you say he has tp+ for sure. i think your narrowing down his range far too much only based on his aggression factor.

im not saying your not right but i think you are jumping to the conclusion far too quickly. really you shouldn't be ready to fold second pair that quickly.

have a look at this. I gave this guy a pretty good range for his stats. I think he can be even more loose than the range i gave him.

Board: Q♦3♠T♠
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    60.24%  59.35%   0.89% { Th4h }
CO     39.76%  38.87%   0.89% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K4o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o, 87o }

and now with turn

Board: Q♦3♠T♠ 6♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    63.41%  63.03%   0.38% { Th4h }
CO     36.59%  36.21%   0.38% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K4o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o, 87o }

and i just tried with 4h3h which gives.

Board: Q♦3♠T♠
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    47.19%  46.89%   0.30% { 4h3h }
CO     52.81%  52.51%   0.30% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K4o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o, 87o }

not bad either imo and now with turn added which changes my mind about folding immediately.

Board: Q♦3♠T♠ 6♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    47.59%  47.31%   0.28% { 4h3h }
CO     52.41%  52.13%   0.28% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K4o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o, 87o }

ok, mm the problem is I dont see this man betting with flush draw or with 22-JJ, he would give fear the Q.

If he only bets with TP+

Mesa: Q♦3♠T♠
       Equity   Ganar  Empate
UTG    84.52%  84.52%   0.00% { KK+, QhQs, QhQc, QsQc, TdTc, AhQh, AsQs, AcQc, KhQh, KsQs, KcQc, QhJh, QsJs, QcJc, QcTc, Qh9h, Qs9s, Qc9c, Qh8h, Qs8s, Qc8c, Qh7h, Qs7s, Qc7c, Qh6h, Qs6s, Qc6c, Qh5h, Qs5s, Qc5c, Qs4s, Qc4c, Qh3h, Qc3c, Qh2h, Qs2s, Qc2c, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQs, AhQc, AsQh, AsQc, AcQh, AcQs, KdQh, KdQs, KdQc, KhQs, KhQc, KsQh, KsQc, KcQh, KcQs, QhJd, QhJs, QhJc, QsJd, QsJh, QsJc, QcJd, QcJh, QcJs, QhTd, QhTc, QsTd, QsTc, QcTd, Qh9d, Qh9s, Qh9c, Qs9d, Qs9h, Qs9c, Qc9d, Qc9h, Qc9s, Qh8d, Qh8s, Qh8c, Qs8d, Qs8h, Qs8c, Qc8d, Qc8h, Qc8s, Qh7d, Qh7s, Qh7c, Qs7d, Qs7h, Qs7c, Qc7d, Qc7h, Qc7s }
UTG+1  15.48%  15.48%   0.00% { Th4h }

If he would has other thing to bet, he could bet with second par + FD, but is not possible because T♠: is in the board.

For call in this flop I need 0.5/3bb=0.16 = 16% equity. Really i can do it, but there are a lot of inverse outs and 4♠: is not my favorite card.

I dont know what i do... ♦

P.D. Sorry friend, in your ranges you left the other suited are not spades, such as: K♦:2♦: , J♥:4♥: ...

as i said i just gave him an overall range. just used the slider. and besides i took his preflop range. not his flop range. still your giving him too much credit because hes passive. he limped preflop and all of a sudden he has TP+ only ? his range is much wider than that. I could understand if he had raised preflop but thats definitely not the case with his stats.

I have only read the OP, but my reaction is that it is an easy call in both cases. You have a pair in a 4-player deal with passive players. If you don't call here you should consider folding preflop (which is BLATANTLY wrong). You can't rely on always flopping a straight draw or a flush draw with these holdings.