NL5 ~ KK, Turn call 3b pot

Why don't you 4 bet?

I think because if i 4b an he 5bs i have to fold

4bet and stick it in preflop,

I'm not happy calling AI with kings in NL5 zoom with no sample size on the OP, most times its always aces.

You have 222 hands on him, and looking at his stats it seems loose enough for me to go broke. If you hit AA, bad luck for you.

Originally posted by DecMate
I'm not happy calling AI with kings in NL5 zoom with no sample size on the OP, most times its always aces.

Do you just not 4bet then?

Originally posted by DecMate
I think because if i 4b an he 5bs i have to fold

Why do you want to fold? If you are not ready to get it in vs that loose 3 bettor with KK, you should not play poker...

just because someone is loose with there 3bets doesn't mean they're loose with they're 5bets.

i would be celebrating if I could get it in pre flop with KK against pretty much 99% of players on the micros.

If you call you just give the oportunity for another guy call behind you, and then you are stuck on a hand where you are not the agressor, you dont have the best position, and you are playing against multiple opponents.

The guys 3bet is 17%, are you seriously considering to fold to a 5bet?

The fact that sometimes you will be facing the top of his range and will lose, does not mean you should not 4 bet with KK!!!

Also if you are scared of AA preflop to the point where you don't 4bet get it in with KK, then why do you raise into his AA on the turn? You were bluffcatching preflop so what changed on the flop?

Just saw villain's 3bet range and over a sample of <500 hands it's not so great to make assumptions, but here I think you grossly underestimate his range. He 3bets AQ and KQ but flats with AK and QQ? What about these hands?

Anyway, it's like this. KK+ should probably always be a stack off preflop otherwise you only ever get it in with 6 combinations. This means you either 4bet bluff WAY TOO MUCH or you simply don't 4bet bluff at all. You need a good reason to not stack KK preflop and you simply do not have it here. If you aren't willing to question this aspect of your game then why post hands for feedback?

Secondly, your assumption is that villain is super tight and polarised here, correct? Regardless of whether this is actually the case, you call preflop to keep his range wide i.e. give him the chance to bluff, and accept that sometimes you run into the top of his range. You call pre, call flop because you bluffcatch, then when the turn comes out you spazz out...? This is inconsistent with your plan. If you think he plays AQ and KQ like this then then he will also play KK+ like this too. Basically I think you should call down as you played it.