T check, bet/call?

Hi David. As you said, the FD is the main draw, specially in a UTG range. Sometimes he is gonna have 5678, AA56, etc, but that is a small part of his range.

If you are against someone capable of calling on flop with K + FD, AA + FD or hands like that and then bet turn against weakness from you (or random floats), then you should ch/shove to get the most value from his range.

But without reads, I think you need to bet to protect your hand even if you are against someone very loose that could have the str8 often, because his range to continue in the hand is wider than just that and you don't want to lose value.

Regards

I`m just starting to learn omaha, just wanted to ask You something that "hit" my mind after reading your post @Gothicrow

once you Check / Raise the flop, do you think that planing another check / raise is a good idea? That looks like some really tricky gameplan

I dont like c/r on turn, unless i know that villain is aggro and most of time he bets turn.
AFAIK abc villain usually check back turn to realize his equity so i prefer just to bet myself

Once you c-raise the flop and he calls, it means he has something. Most likely a draw (flush or straight). Turn completes the 65xx draw. If you check he will most of the times bet his straights and check with flush draws (as he will get a free river) so c-raising on the turn is actually shooting at your own ankle.

Bet the turn, and if he raises he is representing straight and you have just a normal mathematical decision to make.

Hi all, well I just read what I wrote and I miss something, that you need to be against someone capable of float your ch/r flop with a wide range, and then bet this turn card if you check, to try that you fold something like Kxxx or a random hand that has equity against his hand.

You may ask, Why an opponent would do that? That's because this flop is perfect to ch/r with a very wide range given that is pretty dry and the fold equity of a ch/r on the flop has a lot of FE, and then much of that range should give up in this turn card often, especially since this is PLO25 where a lot people fear board changing cards.

mmmmm let me try different words. From Hero's point of view, he should ch/r this type of flop often (not always), but he should do it with a wide range including some air. This is because hero has a lot of FE, and when opponent calls, usually means he has a Kxxx, AA or a FD (with or without something), and you can make him fold that type of hands in later streets.

If villain has seen you attack this type of flops very wide, he should cbet less often or call your ch/r with a lot of medium hands and draws, any Kxxx, any FD, etc. and try to steal the pot in later streets, and when you check this turn card is the perfect situation to bet and steal the pot.

So in this hand, you can try a second ch/r against this specific type of opponent (with aggressive history against you), it's very fancy and tricky? yes, but is something to have into your game plan sometimes, and that's what I mean on the first post.

Now, to try this against most opponents is like shooting yourself (like Kyyberi said :f_drink:), because his range to call your flop ch/r is mostly composed by FD and a lot of players are very passive. He can have str8 draws, but usually in a UTG opening range there aren't so many low cards that conect this type of board often. So you should bet this turn card without fear of be beat everytime. You need to protect your hand against FD. This could be named the "standard" play, but in poker nothing is standard because everything depends on the opponent, and that's something to consider in your overall game plan.

@shn11eleven: It is very nice that you decide to learn this game, and congratulations for that!! I just have one advice for you (and for anyone who wants improve in this game including myself), try to think about oponent's range in every hand and play against that range to exploit your opponents. Learn about the equity of different hands against draws, draws against made hands and other draws, etc, this is very usefull while playing. Sometimes variance looks like a bitch, but sometimes she treat us very well, so focus on making your best on the tables and keep studying, the good results are going to be a reflect of your effort sooner or later

Regards!