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Problems with bottom set on turn

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Skycode
Joined: 03.05.2010

Hello!

After 2 years decided to get bit back to poker, and feeling lost time to time.

Here I wonder should I have donked the flop + turn? I decided to go check-raise as I knew the guy was reg with very high c-bet (having more hands on him on different computer), and with regs I think its quite good to mix check-raise with strong hands and draws etc. (not sure if should this on nl 4 though..)

But the turn is problematic as AK hits the target, and I went with some 1/2 pot bet as was unsure what to do. Should I have check-call or what? The raise on turn seems very nuts, so the fold is quite obvious or was I just outplayed with cards wide open ? Ofcourse he could have higher set too.

Microgaming - €0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 29.25 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 97)
BTN: 188.5 BB (VPIP: 14.61, PFR: 10.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 183)
Hero (SB): 165 BB
BB: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 64)
UTG: 110.25 BB (VPIP: 23.94, PFR: 21.13, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 72)
MP: 134.75 BB (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 56)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7♣ 7♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) J♣ 7♠ Q♠
Hero checks, UTG bets 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 20.5 BB, UTG calls 16 BB

Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) T♣
Hero bets 24 BB, UTG raises to 86.75 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 156.25 BB


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

I think that sets are pushing the flop. Maybe A♠K♠: would play this way. Other possible hand is KQ. But I think you played it well. After x/r the flop I don't see reason to x the turn.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Bet turn bigger and get it in.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

I put it in equilab now and see that even against A♠K:Ax: you have the odds to call. So, agree with calling.


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

I don't think he has a higher set, otherwise he'd shove flop. Because the only hand that beats you is AK, and because you have the right odds, I'd call.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think we will rarely fold sets in general. In this situation, I don't think he has a straight on the turn that often, because I think he won't bet/call AK on the flop often, except AsKs and maybe he is even 3betting this. Sets are probably 3betting, too. I think I would bet the turn and get it in, but I somehow don't feel very good about it.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
I put it in equilab now and see that even against A♠K:Ax: you have the odds to call. So, agree with calling.

I think we should be more concerned about QQ/JJ than AsKs. Maaaaaaybe he has QT here sometimes too.

I don't have Equilab on my work computer, so what's our equity against QQ/JJ/AsKs/QTs?

@ OP do you think he could ever play something like AsJs this way? Maybe even AA ("oh no there's two flush draws and the board is super-coordinated I better shove my overpair to stop him hitting")?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010


Board: J♣7♠Q♠ T♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    75.78%  75.78%   0.00% { QQ-JJ, QTs, AsKs }
BB     24.22%  24.22%   0.00% { 7h7c }

So, with the pot odds of 28%, we can't call against this range.


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