KK vs a donk

On stove I put a range of (QQ-88,AQs-AJs,KJs+,Q7s+,J9s+,AdKd,AdTd,KdTd,Ad9d,Kd9d,Ad8d,Kd8d,Ad7d,Kd7d,Ad6d,Kd6d,Ad5d,Kd5d,Ad4d,Ad3d,Ad2d,ATo+,KTo+,Q8o+,J9o+) and I'm 60% ahead..

That's a nasty flop. I think calling is fine (def has hands like T9 in his range here), but be prepared to fold a lot of turns/rivers.

Pretty sure that range is way too wide, btw. He's 23/16; he won't call a 4x raise in the SB with K6dd.

Yeah it's pretty weird, he was at around 30+/10ish at a hundred hands. Pretty sure I saw some weak hand he did call before that's why I did put that there. Can I raise and get it in OTF here? My plan during the hand was to call to extract more weak hands that might bluff the T and get it in on a safe turn. But the turn was an Ad -_-

Raising on the flop and get it in is really no option and prob -EV. I would call flop and re-evaluate turn.

The only hand you beat OTF is AQ which is probably a small part of his GII range as opposed to 99/T8s/QJ.

What range, would you guys put him on?

He can do this with scared Qx, with FD...

Originally posted by cardman021
What range, would you guys put him on?

Pair+draws like QT/JT/T9, obv K is a less likely kicker. NFD/combo draw like AdTd, maybe just the bare Axdd. I'd be less inclined to think he has QQ/JJ/99 after the PF action but I wouldn't completely rule them out. T8s is also a possibility and to a lesser extent KTs. His most likely value hands that you're behind are QJ/J9/Q9 imo.

Basically I think he has mostly hands that you beat but that won't want to stack off without improving, so raising flop isolates you against the QJ+ of his range whereas calling and going for value on a blank turn will get him to put more bets in with his JT.

That make sense, thanks for explaining it. Just want to make sure I understand how you think about the spot. Thanks guys..

I also wouldn't raise the flop because we might easily end up isolated vs sets and straights. So, I would call the flop, call blank turns and probably give up most rivers.