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SH Zoom - QQ 4b Pot IP BU v CO

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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Preflop: Flat okay here? I figure villain is either 4b bluffing or has QQ, AK+. Should I just rip it in here so deep? Guess villain was doing this with AKo.

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
MP: $5.36 (VPIP: 21.67, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 60)
CO: $9.32
Hero (BTN): $9.19
SB: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: $2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: $3.15 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.17, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.83, Hero calls $0.33

Flop: ($1.73, 2 players) 2♠ 7♠ Q♠
CO checks, Hero bets $1.00, fold

Spoiler

Hero wins $1.63


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

the reason why calling sucks it because we let a hand like ATo or KJ see a free flop with some equity

the reason why jamming sucks because there isn't alot in the pot vs our stack so we have to win more often

i'm not an expert deep if we should 5bet or call for 200BB's with QQ, probably IP take a flop i guess


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We should not be ready to push here for almost 200BBs with QQ.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I´m also not experience in deep play but I think call vs his 4bet is the only option. It seems to me optimistic to think that he stack off here for 200bb AK or JJ.

Also since you´re playing zoom do you think you have some special edge in playing deep? If not, maybe it would be better to sit out with such a big stack and working on your 100bb game first.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think that if we 5Bet we will face mostly KK+ and lose our big stack.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Definitely call, the 4-bet is tiny. Then just flop a set and things will be fine.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The problem with calling pre is we have to be very careful on low boards.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

That's why you should flop a set:D


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

1out of 8 times he will... :)


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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Originally posted by YohanN7
Definitely call, the 4-bet is tiny. Then just flop a set and things will be fine.

Ha I know right. Easy game formula: call 4bets, flop top set, profit.

Thanks for the feedback


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

It really is easy, You get plenty more than 5:1 in direct odds to call, add to that the fact that QQ may be best, you have position, and then it is really a nobrainer. I am sorry if my earlier replies didn't reflect this clearly.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

As YohanN7 mentioned after calling we can be still ahead. Also we can use our position advantage. By 5bet we lose position advantage and we are pretty dead vs his continuation range.


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