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2 pair raised on river

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chriian12
Joined: 17.10.2010

Given his raise preflop, I wasn't too concerned about him holding 3-4 and hitting a straight on the river, so my question is, should I raise this river, or was my call the better play?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 117 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 6.52, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 93)
BTN: 166.5 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
SB: 109.5 BB (VPIP: 58.62, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (BB): 226 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ T♥

fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6♥ T♣ Q♦
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 2♣
Hero bets 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB

River: (13.5 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN raises to 43 BB, Hero calls 33 BB

Spoiler

BTN shows 5♠ 6♦ (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives)
(Pre 36%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows Q♠ T♥ (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 96 BB


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kerith
Joined: 30.07.2015

I think I raise here, I think the same as you do, that if he had 34 he would have folded the hand. I think that big unmeasured raise is a bluff.

But I'm a real newbie, so I'm not too trustworthy.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Rather easy spot.
Otf: you could have donkbet. Although x/r also seems like a decent play.
You dont need to worry about a set. Dont think he holds one. He would've bet otf (if holds 6), would've raised u ott (if holds 6 or 2). Ez call.

Edit: You shouldnt raise this river, only 56 might raise you (of worse hands)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like to raise flop here. We are deep.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by nitrol
I like to raise flop here. We are deep.

At most we can donk bet (we're OOP) or x/r like I said we may consider the best move.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Donking is scary on nl2... :)


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by nitrol
Donking is scary on nl2... :)

Good point but as long as we do not treat that kinda play default it may be very profitable at micro stakes


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I think x/r flop would be OK, I don´t like donk HU without exploitative reason.

As played maybe it´s so weak but my first idea was b/f R since I don´t expect bluff here often and not even valueraise with worse hand.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

B/f is ok vs a passive villain.
How abou x/c, do we lose value?


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Maybe x/c can be OK since OTT he can call even with club FD so he can has decent number of busted draws.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Are AQ/KQ betting river if we check?


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I don´t think he has these combos after flop action too often but if he decide to slowplay it then yes, I believe he should valuebet both.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

So x/c is better then.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Problem is I still expect average villain bet AQ/KQ almost everytime OTF. But it´s interesting point that if I would know that villain x/b flop with some strong hands quite often but it´s not too passive (= can delay cbet T a R) in general that it can be be good reason to more incline to x/c.

OTT it could be good to look at his delay cbet stat and also fold after x/b flop. Some people delay cbet huge number of time which I believe is perfectly fine HU on lower stakes because when average player check twice then he give up extremly often.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

May be you are right. After the check-check on flop, we should double barrel.


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