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5$hyper bottompair vs donkbet

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FredDoof
Joined: 08.06.2014

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 Spieler) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://de.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

BB (t472)
Hero (SB) (t528)

Hero's M: 11.73

Preflop: Hero ist SB mit 5, 3
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) Q, 3, A (2 Spieler)
BB bets t30, Hero raises to t102, BB calls t72

Turn: (t324) K (2 Spieler)
BB checks, Hero bets t366 (All-In), 1 fold

Gesamt Pot: t324

Ergebnisse :

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 5, 3.
Ergebnis: Hero gewinnt t324

how would you play this against a player who donks the flop quite often?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would normal fold pre-flop against someone that will call often in BB. 53o isn’t a hand that will play to well post-flop. Only if he likes to fold a lot it’s fine I think.

As played I would most likely call him down if he’s min-betting until the river with bottom pair. Don’t think fancy moves will work to often against a player like that.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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sherriffatman
Joined: 30.04.2009

yeah, totally agree with SDK (for once! :f_biggrin:)

- you could justify this with the right reads in place I s'pose, and yeah it worked here, but otherwise it's just FPS/spew really (no offence intended btw), and you get yourself in tricky spots often by taking such non-standard lines without the correct justifications

- there are spots where you can legitimately open some of the bottom 10-15% of range against certain villains, but generally best to just fold, or limp them if you can do better than -0.5bb (folding 'value') that way

- also, when grinding these games, it's especially important to properly consider each and every spot, and not just "auto-pilot"/click-buttons - it's easier said than done, I know, esp. if you trying to put in volume, but it's usually better to just stick to solid fundamentals, rather than trying to be the 'goat' in marginal situations - this sort of stuff only really works well when you have data/solid reads/lots of hds on villain

(try to be more specific with reads if possible - eg: "donks flop quite often" is quite a vague statement really - need stats [like, has donked 50%, 4 out of 8 times or w/e, donks = mostly value/air or w/e] )


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