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KK 3bet pot River 4 card str8 what to do

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Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $204.72 (102.4 bb)
BB: $312.47 (156.2 bb)
UTG: $202.65 (101.3 bb)
MP: $170.85 (85.4 bb)
CO: $230.69 (115.3 bb)
BTN: $232.14 (116.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $6, BTN folds, Hero raises to $20, BB folds, CO calls $14

Flop: ($42) Q 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($42) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $30, CO calls $30

2) River: ($102) 7 (2 players)
Hero ?

When hero checks, What to do when:

River: ($102) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $100, Hero?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

very sick. i want to call, but the gut says fold :f_biggrin:
does he have that much Tx that doesn't just bet F? QT 9T TT are plausible.
of course it's very transparent that you are not likely to have the Tx, but what about the possible bluffs? maybe A9s A8s some rare KJ or something, Q turned into bluff? idk man probably better to end up folding


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

You might be better off posting in the "Advanced hand discussion forum". Many of us here have our minds set at micro-player thinking. This includes thoughts like "they never ever bluff here" and the like that is just blatantly wrong at NL200. You could get the necessary status upgrade for much less than the cost of a single bad beat.

(Not saying Tomaloc's advice is bad, but mine probably would be;))


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

I am a microstakes player and i want to ask why hero is not betting the flop here? Vilain has high stabing Fq in 3bet pots maybe so hero is planing to x/r or smh else? From nanos perspective it is mandatory bet :) It seems strange that he is x his T here, but i guess this spot should be analyzed with a more info about opponent.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

The answer is that you don't beat many of the hands that will call a flop bet. It is a pretty bad flop. See the check as pot control and protection of the checking range.

QQ, 99, 88 and JTs are most likely in his range. This is thirteen combos. What else is calling? Some AQ combos that doesn't 3-bet preflop, the odd flush draw, maybe the occasional gut shot (with the A♣: ). The next problem is that he will raise the best and the worst of these, and we then can't call.


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The answer is that you don't beat many of the hands that will call a flop bet. It is a pretty bad flop. See the check as pot control and protection of the checking range
- yohan


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

I guess also TT/JJ if not 4beting they are calling on the flop? Is protecting xing range on two tone board with OP ok here? On rainbow flop we should be more inclined to x KK? KQ/AQ/AK of c. sets, and like JTcc, and maybe JTo as x? It looks like he inteprets this x/b/x that hero has some capped weak holdings and he is tryin to put some presure otr with his air or busted draws?

Also i am not debating i am tryn to learn and understand concepts :)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Maybe he has JJ/TT in his range, but that might just add to the problems. Such hands can't just chase their 4-6 outer if faced with good-sized bets. They should be bluffing a lot, either by raising flop or floating flop and raising turn. If you now incorrectly (given what he has) fold, he is then typically profiting from JJ/TT in big-ish pots instead of typically losing with them in small pots.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I prefer folding river here. Especially vs unknown.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

does he check back TT OTF?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

He will check TT here OTF.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I´m coward and probably folding here but really cannot make decision what is better. On one side it seems to me as a good spot for him for bluff on the other hand I cannot find enough bluffs at him. Probably because on NL200 I expect people turning much more made hands to bluffs than on my stakes.


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