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Fofinho344
Joined: 20.05.2015

PokerStars - $0.10+$0.01|50/100 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 47.99 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG+1: 24.42 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (MP): 22.46 BB
MP+1: 46.99 BB (VPIP: 59.09, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 22)
MP+2: 38.29 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 22)
CO: 26.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
BTN: 77.74 BB (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
SB: 24.6 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 23.78 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K♥ J♥

UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 3 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 4 players) 2♦ 4♠ Q♥
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 5.52 BB, fold, UTG calls 5.52 BB, fold

Turn: (29.44 BB, 2 players) 3♥
UTG checks, Hero ???

I think until here is standard, right? But i'm not sure about the turn and the size of my cbet on flop. Should I bet or check on turn?


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What is your plan preflop? with 2 limpers and alot of players behind the 4BB raise doesn't make sense to me. Either you raise bigger and are willing to get it and win the blinds sometimes or you wait for a better spot. Cbetting 4way without a made hand and a couple of fishes that probably won't fold alot to your cbets is also a waste of chips. As played, on the turn you are potcommited and need to push.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don’t think the pre-flop raise size is bad so with a 22bb stack against 2 limpers.

Flop is indeed a clear check against 3 other players. You don’t get them to fold better hands and it’s likely 1 of the 3 has hit something. As played you hit the nut flush draw, but I don’t think you have much fold equity here with 12bb left. So I would check and try to hit my draw for free.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Arabadjiev
Joined: 26.06.2008

Fofinho344,

I think that with 22.5 BBs pre-flop we should be careful with hands like KJs from middle position.
My recommendation is to either push them all in pre-flop or to directly fold.
The reason is only our position and if you get raised by the players from later positions you will have a really uncomfortable situation and need to fold or play for all of your chips with KJs.
I think on such tournaments the push will be +EV in long run.

Based on the trajectory which you have taken, I will bet the turn as well and go all-in at any river and hope that the villain holds 55-99 or a weak queen.

Best regards,
Arabadjiev


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by Arabadjiev
Fofinho344,

I think that with 22.5 BBs pre-flop we should be careful with hands like KJs from middle position.
My recommendation is to either push them all in pre-flop or to directly fold.
The reason is only our position and if you get raised by the players from later positions you will have a really uncomfortable situation and need to fold or play for all of your chips with KJs.
I think on such tournaments the push will be +EV in long run.

Based on the trajectory which you have taken, I will bet the turn as well and go all-in at any river and hope that the villain holds 55-99 or a weak queen.

Best regards,
Arabadjiev

Pushing for 22bb effective is +ev, but you get off course only action of better. So it’s a variance move. If you raise you can easily fold on a 3bet and if you end multi way you need to play more passive if you missed and aggressive if you hit.

You’re not deep enough to bet the turn and shove the river, because you have only 13bb behind in a pot of almost 30bb.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I don´t like flop cbet here. As played OTT fold equity seems to me to small that I prefer x/b


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