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[Closed] AA and KK cracked.. bad play or just plain unlucky???

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bordzter
Joined: 03.08.2008

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$10.23:///////;BU$22.64:146/37 /5 /2.3/23 /0 /50 /40 ;[/tg]
0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♣, A♦
UTG folds, UTG1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, CO folds, BU calls $0.50, 2 folds, UTG1 calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.85) J♥, 8♥, Q♦ (3 players)
UTG1 checks, Hero bets $0.88, BU calls $0.88, UTG1 folds.

Turn: ($3.61) 7♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.71, BU calls $1.71.

River: ($7.03) J♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $3.34, BU calls $3.34.

Final Pot: $13.71

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;MP2$17.24:407/14 /4 /1.4/22 /17 /-/50 ;Hero$12.78:///////;[/tg]
0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♣, A♥
4 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, MP2 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.85) T♠, 4♠, 9♠ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.88, MP2 calls $0.88.

Turn: ($3.61) 3♥ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.71, MP2 calls $1.71.

River: ($7.03) 4♥ (2 players)
MP2 bets $2.00, Hero raises to $4.00, MP2 raises to $13.90 (All-In), Hero calls $5.44 (All-In).

Final Pot: $30.37

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows two pairs, aces and fours (Ac Ah)
MP2 shows a full-house, tens full of fours (Th Tc)

MP2 wins with a full-house, tens full of fours (Th Tc)

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$9.37:29/24 /3 /3.5/13 /0 /-/0 ;MP2$9.34:22/23 /0 /2.0/14 /0 /0 /100 ;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with K♦, K♠
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.40, 3 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds.

Flop: ($1.30) T♦, J♦, A♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.24, MP2 raises to $2.48, SB folds, Hero calls $2.41 (All-In), MP2 calls $1.17.

Turn: ($8.60) 8♥
River: ($8.60) 9♣ (2 players)

Final Pot: $8.60

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As promised, I have re-posted the hand using elephant tracker and included the KK hand which made me tilt for a while....

and also, removed the results as advised....


8 replies
bordzter
Joined: 03.08.2008

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($17.24)

CO ($27.45)

Button ($4.99)

SB ($59.57)

UTG ($22.99)

UTG+1 ($33.03)

UTG+2 ($28.84)

MP3 ($12.78)

MP1 ($4.38)

BB ($55.72)

Preflop:

4 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 raises $0.75, 4 folds, MP2 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.85) 10, 4, 9 (2 players)

MP2 checks, MP3 bets $0.88, MP2 calls $0.88

Turn: ($3.61) 3 (2 players)

MP2 checks, MP3 bets $1.71, MP2 calls $1.71

River: ($7.03) 4 (2 players)

MP2 bets $2, MP3 raises $4, MP2 raises to $13.90 (All-In), MP3 calls $5.44 (All-In)

Total pot: $25.91

Results in white below:

MP2 had 10, 10 (full house, tens over fours).

MP3 had A, A (two pair, Aces and fours).

Outcome: MP2 won $29.08


IngolPoker
Joined: 05.09.2006

Can you please use a proper converter? For example from the pokerstrategy elephant


bordzter
Joined: 03.08.2008

just installed elephant. will post succeeding hands through it.


exorcism
Joined: 12.05.2008

1st hand -

raise more preflop... with that minraise you are inviting a lot of people in the pot and AA doesn't play well against too many oponents. raise to 1.25 preflop

on the flop bet more - 2/3 potsize to potsize to protect against a flush and straight draw and build a pot. Your goal is to move all in as soon as possible

2nd Hand -

again raise more preflop!!! 4BB+1BB per limper

bet a lot more on the flop to protect from a flushdraw, you can go broke with an overpair.

3rd hand- nh

good raise preflop (finally :) )

you flopped a straight, nut flush and a royal flush draw, plus a pair - definetly worth getting your money in the middle with this monster.

hope this helps!


Agree with most of what exo says - protection against strong draws should be more of a potsized bet however, 2/3 pot is a normal c-bet. As played both AA hands are very difficult to play, if not impossible.


excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008

if you see an A on the flop and people keep calling your raises you should be sure that your KK are done...

the AA are bad raises preflop


bordzter
Joined: 03.08.2008

thanks for the comment guys. it really helped.

been having trouble playing AA and KK of late....


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Hello bordzter,

Hand #1 of OP
Preflop: Raise to $1.25 (4+1bb) even though you have a doubled stack, come on you have Aces =)!

Flop+Turn+River: Continuation Bet harder to 2/3 potsized! Betting with 1/2 potsized as a continuation bet is bad and -EV

Hand #2 of OP

Same story, bet more pre-post-turn&river!

Hand #3 of OP

This one is well played :)

Best regards,
Gerv