facing cold 4bet

Do you have his cold4bet stats or you just know that he´s 3beting a lot? If only 3beting then fold pre.

Also I think his sizing is quite big (not sure about proper cold4bet) and also his flop and turn cbet are too big for 4bet spot I think. If I would call PF (which I´m not) then I think fold T - don´t think that he´s bluffing with these sizing.

River is funny, it´s hard to fold even I can´t imagine that we are ever ahead against competent player (maybe I´m wrong)

BB has 9.77 3Bet stat.
We can fold. We can call. We should have a very solid strategy for postflop.
If you decide to stay on turn, better push the 18BB left.

The thing is there are many people who have very high 3bet but almost never do cold 4bet as a bluff. I think this is one of reason why it´s sometimes better to 3bet some hands which we usually calling, when we have aggro squeezer behind - because many agro squeezers are not agro cold 4bettors (if i can use this word )

I play the same way.
Here we may call and play IP, but still have to be very careful...

preflop even vs KK+,AK i have 27.8% equity and to call preflop i'm getting 29% odds with position - i don't the pot odds don't directly apply until the showdown really but it's close right?

OTF vs that same range I have 40% equity and it's a half pot bet
OTT vs KK & AK - 23% equity....

I mean you have to be careful on Axx, Qxx boards as you can easily be behind.

Sorry but can't really understand reasons of flating it pre, because if u think he might be light cold 4beting just ship it into his face and if you are not sure just muck the hand

As played just close eyes and go broke on flop, because when u call and miss you're just losing your equity in the pot

why would I want to ship it pre and fold out all his bluffs and only continue vs a range i'm crushed against?

Like if he's c4B hands like AJs or KQs then I dominate those hands and we can play ok in position vs them, note vs most i'd probably let it go because ranges are too strong but against this particular villian I thought he is capable of having some bluffs

I'm not thrilled about the turn spot atall but with the pair+NFD then it's tough to let it go

Kalecia: Sorry but I think shipping pre is the worst option. Yes we take some that money but mostly from hands we are dominate and he will probably call all hands which beat us (AK and PPs)

Simply because you have tons of equity which I would rather preffer to protect and flip with stronger hands + you fold splits, under pairs and air(which I think won't continue on other streets unless u have reads ). So for me just pushing into his face is making your life simpler. I don't really have brain atm to count it in equilab but I'm pretty sure that push here is EV+ not only because of +EV in chips but also because we avoid tough decisions on another streets. Pot on the flop is already over 60bb so even if he folds worse I think we should be happy

@Edit: Sorry was drunk last night I ment to ship it on the flop not Pre

I see I ment to ship pre HEEHE, Conclusion: Dont post when you are drunk ♦

W/e just ignore my above comments, As played I am just pushing it on the flop

With shipping it pre we will face hands vs which our equity is not that much.
Pushing flop is fine but still much variance.

Originally posted by nitrol
With shipping it pre we will face hands vs which our equity is not that much.
Pushing flop is fine but still much variance.

but in 4bet pot with such a strong hit do we really have space to ever give up this hand ?

Can we just call?

Originally posted by nitrol
Can we just call?

With calling aren't we losing half of our equity vs stronger hands ?