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ILMARCIO
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Joined: 07.09.2013
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01.10.2015, 14:56

Poker Stars, €0.05/€0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: €21.66 (216.6 bb) H:119|VPIP:22|PFR:18|AF:4,5|SBFOLDTOSTEAL:83|TOT3BET:14,0|3BETIP:15|3BETOP:13|5BET:\
BB: €10 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): €10 (100 bb)
MP: €10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: €17.29 (172.9 bb)
BTN: €10.34 (103.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to €0.30, MP calls €0.30, 2 folds, SB raises to €1.30, BB folds, Hero raises to €3, MP folds, SB raises to €21.66 and is all-in, Hero calls €7.00 and is all-in

Flop: (€20.40) T 3 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (€20.40) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (€20.40) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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€20.40 pot (€1.12 rake)
Final Board: T 3 6 5 A
SB showed K K and lost (-€10 net)
Hero showed A K and won €19.28 (€9.28 net)

Quanto è sbagliato questo call? Ma soprattutto come ci si comporta in circostanze più generali con AK-QQ-KK in mano di fronte a un Push Preflop sugli Zoom 5/10 di Pokerstars?


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MJPerry
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01.10.2015, 17:29

NH?


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Dadramel
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01.10.2015, 21:55

NH...


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nitrol
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01.10.2015, 22:08

It would have been useful to see villain's squeeze stat.


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MJPerry
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02.10.2015, 09:41

Originally posted by nitrol
It would have been useful to see villain's squeeze stat.

That would be super relevant over 119 hands and definitely lead to us not stacking off with AK.


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nitrol
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02.10.2015, 14:35

You know that I love you, right? :)

Trying yo teach him to look at the tight stat in thisvsituation. :)

For a 119 hands if it is not equal to 0 it will tell us that he is active. That's all.


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MJPerry
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04.10.2015, 14:00

Originally posted by nitrol
You know that I love you, right? :)

Trying yo teach him to look at the tight stat in thisvsituation. :)

For a 119 hands if it is not equal to 0 it will tell us that he is active. That's all.

I love you too babe.

I just don't think it's that relevant of a stat in this spot. We're going to get it in pre with AK for 100BBs regardless.


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nitrol
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04.10.2015, 14:27

I agree with that. Just pointing out that the most important stat was not listed... :)


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ILMARCIO
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09.10.2015, 12:44

Thank you for all your answer guys. I think that i have to put in my hud squeeze stat too, i don't have it.


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09.10.2015, 13:33

Originally posted by MJPerry
We're going to get it in pre with AK for 100BBs regardless.

And what will the SB stack off with vs hero's UTG stack-off range? Remember that it's not a steal situation and ranges aren't that wide...


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Alleen86
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12.10.2015, 17:50

This is one of those ackward spots where we can't easy fold to a squeeze, but whatever else we do, we won't be in a very good situation. Nevertheless, when we decided to stay in the hand after SB's squeeze, we have to 4bet. Since we can't 4bet AKo as a bluff (at least I believe we can't), we have to call his shove. I wouldn't mind to find a reason to fold to a squeeze in some cases, though.


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JHTAN
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14.10.2015, 04:20

Hard to fold unless you have sick read on villain. I think 119 hands are not enough......


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zoty79
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14.10.2015, 07:42

Hi, this is a clear fold. On this limit people don't bluff enough, to make an all in against a SB queeze vs UTG +EV


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LuckyManFromLT
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14.10.2015, 10:50

If you 4b pre in this spot, when you must call his shove unless you know for sure that SB is 4b only KK+ in this spot and just call vs 4b w AK/QQ and I doubt that you have such info, so nice hand.


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