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[NL25] Wtf is this reg thinking? or am I missing something and he is a pro?

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Volrath89
Joined: 23.07.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($25.45)
BB ($25)
UTG ($37.76)
UTG+1 ($20.78)
UTG+2 ($43.94)
MP1 ($25)
CO ($28.54)
BTN ($26.09)

Dealt to Hero 2♥ A♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, BTN calls $1.50

FLOP ($4.75) 6♣ 7♣ 6♠

Hero bets $3.02, BTN calls $3.02

TURN ($10.79) 6♣ 7♣ 6♠ K♥

Hero bets $5.15, BTN calls $5.15

RIVER ($21.09) 6♣ 7♣ 6♠ K♥ J♦

Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler

BTN shows Q♥ 7♥
(Pre 39%, Flop 87.2%, Turn 93.2%)

Hero shows 2♥ A♥
(Pre 61%, Flop 12.8%, Turn 6.8%)

BTN wins $20.14

Preflop: I had only 100 hands of this villain at the time this hand was played. He opened 36% on the BU and he had received just 2 3bets in those 100 hands, one folded, one called. None of these were in blind wars. So I 3bet him because these hand is definitely in the range where I'm gonna defend my SB.

Postflop: Sometimes I do this with my air in 3bet pots, just because they fold eveeery time when they don't have the nuts (either on the flop or on the turn). Of course I do it too with my overpairs and AK too so... how does it make any sense for this regular to call with the hand he showed? (Even preflop, I mean wtf, does he think he is gaining money on the long run calling with that to 3bets?! :/ ) I am an unknown reg to him, even if I was a fish, I don't really understand what he was thinking...


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

I think there is 3 possibility's

1) He seen you go to showdown in a similar spot (he probably thought that he could counter bluff you off IP, but decided after hitting to bluff catch you)
2) He was just tilted
3) He isn't a reg but a calling station :f_biggrin:

1 last thing this flop is a bad flop to cbet bluff even in a 3bet pot but you play 9 mx, I play 6max but I still think its still a bad flop to bet


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KoeNe4U
Joined: 20.11.2009

Villain's hand is definitely a 4bet/fold hand, can't see why he would call here and make it profitable in the long run. MAKE A NOTE and don't bother about it...

As played, I think you did fine. The flop definitely hits your range more than it hits villain's range, so cbet is good. the king turn also hits your range more than villain's, so well played. :f_thumbsup:


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

you bet on the turn is 1/2 pot would you make that bet with AK there or would it be 2/3s


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Hm, pretty strange that he is calling with a hand like that, but just a question: Why do you keep barreling here in a 3bet pot with such a weak hand? I can understand that the flop is pretty dry, however I would not expect him to call something on the flop that we beat?


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Volrath89
Joined: 23.07.2008

Originally posted by FrozenElf
you bet on the turn is 1/2 pot would you make that bet with AK there or would it be 2/3s

I'd make it half pot with AK and AA too.

Originally posted by FollowTheSmartMoney
Hm, pretty strange that he is calling with a hand like that, but just a question: Why do you keep barreling here in a 3bet pot with such a weak hand? I can understand that the flop is pretty dry, however I would not expect him to call something on the flop that we beat?

No, but I hope he can fold better on the turn or river. I guess I should have fired the river too, I mean, just play it like if I had AK... he has very few nuts in his range, the only hand that would call a river bet and that is in his range is JJ... But hm yeah, as I remember I was actually scared of JJ, it would make a lot of sense for him to have it, so that's why I probably didn't fire the river (I'd probably fired a 9 or lower card, the Q is also dangerous).

On the other hand, this is just NL25, I guess I could get away with just c/folding when i don't hit... I'll think about it (althought in NL5 and NL10 barreling multiple times as a bluff works perfectly!)


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

Ive been thinking about this hand, i think i may know the answer to this.

If he is indeed a reg, he may well have seen you bluff 3bet in this spot, now his preflop call tells me he doesn't have a solid counterstrategy vs 3betbluffs.

Preflop
This leads him to make a poor preflop decision and call with a weak hand.

Flop

This flop is good for him he has a bluff catcher vs SC and small pairs and your AT+ missed

Turn

This is a perfect card for you to double barrel you bluff i think its a standard call, if your 3 bet bluff range is so wide, and make multi barrel bluffs

River

I guess he was planning to play check fold here, if you would of treble barrelled he would of folded.

what do you think to this do you agree?


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Originally posted by Volrath89

Originally posted by FrozenElf
you bet on the turn is 1/2 pot would you make that bet with AK there or would it be 2/3s

I'd make it half pot with AK and AA too.

Originally posted by FollowTheSmartMoney
Hm, pretty strange that he is calling with a hand like that, but just a question: Why do you keep barreling here in a 3bet pot with such a weak hand? I can understand that the flop is pretty dry, however I would not expect him to call something on the flop that we beat?

No, but I hope he can fold better on the turn or river. I guess I should have fired the river too, I mean, just play it like if I had AK... he has very few nuts in his range, the only hand that would call a river bet and that is in his range is JJ... But hm yeah, as I remember I was actually scared of JJ, it would make a lot of sense for him to have it, so that's why I probably didn't fire the river (I'd probably fired a 9 or lower card, the Q is also dangerous).

On the other hand, this is just NL25, I guess I could get away with just c/folding when i don't hit... I'll think about it (althought in NL5 and NL10 barreling multiple times as a bluff works perfectly!)

This is an interesting point ... I also thought about starting to barrel more postflop on scare cards vs. the nits. It seems like I am playing too honestly overall, and zoom is an awful nitfest these days ...


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008