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[Closed] NL50 FR - Nut flush Draw + TP

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VTomukas
Joined: 30.12.2007

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($10.00)
UTG 1 ($49.90)
UTG 2 ($17.11)
MP1 ($47.70)
MP2 ($45.78)
MP3 ($49.00)
Hero (CO) ($47.50)
BTN ($33.00)
SB ($9.50)
BB ($59.04)
[Hero posted $0.75]

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 10 players) Hero is CO J♠ A♠
1 fold, UTG 1 raises to $1.50, 4 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: 3♠ A♥ Q♠ ($5, 3 players)
BB bets $1.50, UTG 1 raises to $7, Hero ...??

UTG - 29/7/1.25 - but only on 30 hands.
BB - 86/28/3.8 - but only 35 hands. Well, no big diff with his current stats

Preflop call was indicated as I've paid to return after force computer restart, (not sure, I think there was at least one force BB bet too, but hand history didn't showed that), so there I had better call odds than on "usual" situation "AJs against the raise".

On flop I have nut flush draw and top pair with decent kicker. I can see only three hand I'm far behind - AA, QQ and AQ. I'm ahead against any two other pairs, I'm even ahead of set of 3 (well, almost 50/50 there). So I can't fold there? I can't call there too, since this is reverse implied odds situation? I don't think I will get paid a lot on a spade turn, but I will have much worse odds to call turn bet (mostly I'm talking about UTG+1, I'm pretty sure I have huge +EV against BB range). Also - almost the same, if I raise, and get called - I will have very hard turn decision coming, if no spade or J will come.

Actually after some consideration I saw only one decision - I made a push there. But isn't it a situation "will only get called by a better hand?". In that case seems, there's no good decision in this situation at all

Bad decision/good decision? Any other decisions possible?


9 replies
Michailewic
Joined: 28.04.2008

Fold is out of question. And call I think is not good. I might raise to $21 and call a shove (because of pot odds).


Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

do you want push like almost 47$ into 13,5$ pot?


Snodreliss
Joined: 23.12.2007

I raise 21$ and shove any turn.


VTomukas
Joined: 30.12.2007

Originally posted by Talic
do you want push like almost 47$ into 13,5$ pot?

I decided I do not want to see any turn card without all the money being on table :) I was really afraid of blank turn and UTG+1 shove.

Wouldn't be so much different from "Raise 21$, shove any turn (or call a shove)? :)


spit22
Joined: 03.11.2008

actually yes it's a bit different. then your opponent has to make 2 difficult decisions. but then again you have to make them too :P


VTomukas
Joined: 30.12.2007

I can't see villain could fold ANY hand on turn that he would called my flop raise :) So no hard decision for him (shove any turn if call the flop) - and a hard one for me - if I miss the turn.


Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

seems like PS is running out of judgers, dont let us down :(


If you think that you have fold equity agaist AK, then shove.
One option would be also call, since it is not that likely that BB shoves over UTG raise.
I would coldcall and fold to turn bet if I don´t improve to J or flush.


VTomukas
Joined: 30.12.2007

BTW - quite a sad ending for this hand :) I shoved, UTG1 after some consideration said "You have AQ?" Then he called, showed A3 for two pair - but I missed both turn and river...

Still, at least my shove wasn't a very bad move, so I'm not very sad :)


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