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SH AQs, Calling Shove

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $3.39 (33.9 bb)
MP: $12.06 (120.6 bb)
CO: $9.64 (96.4 bb)
BTN: $20.66 (206.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
MP folds, CO raises to $9.64 and is all-in, BTN folds, Hero calls $9.59, BB calls $3.29 and is all-in

Preflop: The guy is unknown, but he sat at the table and open shoved the first hand and then open shoved this one. I think he can have any two, so I decided that AQs is a call. What do you think?


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

Easy call, in my opinion.


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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

Given the info you have, I think you have a profitable call


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

I had exactly the same hand with also A♣:Q♣:. Villain had TT.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

AQs is a bit loose for me.


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009

I think for 100 BB(or almost) , with 1 hand sample, it is such an easy fold.


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

Gamble Easy game.


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

It doesn't matter what the stack size is, this will be a profitable call provided we have at least 52.3% equity (allowing for rake). I don't see how you can sensibly put villain on a range where we have less than that. Admittedly we need to make some allowance for the player left to act, but even so I can't see this ever being a fold. Remember in cash games it is correct to make even marginally profitable calls (after rake).


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he s open shoving almost 100 bb... i guess you re gambling a lot by calling that..


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ChoChikun
Joined: 15.10.2008

use nationality read ;-)


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I quess that we can't be certain, but when the player open shoves two or three hands in a row, we should be pretty sure that he is doing that with a random hand. With AQs we have 66% of equity vs random range.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not agree he is shovin any two.

Look at this:
MP2 58.21% 55.15% 3.06% 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo
MP3 41.79% 38.73% 3.06% AcQc


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
I do not agree he is shovin any two.

Look at this:
MP2 58.21% 55.15% 3.06% 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo
MP3 41.79% 38.73% 3.06% AcQc

Could be. But I think that, generally, open shovers don't have a "shoving range". They are usually just tilting and shoving randomly.


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

If he does have an open shoving range, it's not going to look like a normal OR range. It would be more like {22+, A2+, 32s+}.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
I do not agree he is shovin any two.

Look at this:
MP2 58.21% 55.15% 3.06% 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo
MP3 41.79% 38.73% 3.06% AcQc

Could be. But I think that, generally, open shovers don't have a "shoving range". They are usually just tilting and shoving randomly.

With 2 shoves I cannot say he is a wide open shover...


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