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benaars
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30.10.2015, 11:03

Hello,

PKR, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $30.24 (121 bb)
BB: $113.87 (455.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $26.39 (105.6 bb)
CO: $7.42 (29.7 bb)
BTN: $102.67 (410.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 6 9 T
Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) J 8 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.16, Hero raises to $18.03, BTN raises to $31.90, Hero calls $5.76 and is all-in

Now looking back at this, the open seems really light; (is it?)
The 3bettor is playing very aggro (54/46 with 29 3bet) ; call is standard?

On the flop if the board wasn't suited I think we could get it in, but since he was really loose I though he might cbet/fold a ton of hands and went for a x/r jam. Was it better to x/c and donk turns if we get the goods and x/f turns if unfavorable card comes? Or is it so thin that we should simply x/f?


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30.10.2015, 11:49

Hi,

the open is very borderline, but you can get away with it on a soft thable. Call to the 3bet is standard. I think you played it fine. Since your hand has a mega yet nonnuty draw, going for FE here seems the best plan. C/c is also a fine line here, but vs agro i think you can check turns when you hit as well since he will continue barreling.

x/f is def out of the question here.


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30.10.2015, 12:12

Originally posted by Skodljivec
the open is very borderline

If the 7h was the 8d, how much would that improve the strength of the hand?


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30.10.2015, 12:26

Originally posted by MJPerry

Originally posted by Skodljivec
the open is very borderline

If the 7h was the 8d, how much would that improve the strength of the hand?

10fold ♦ I mean ok not 10fold, but change it and it's an open on every table from every position for every player every time :)


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30.10.2015, 12:30

Originally posted by Skodljivec

Originally posted by MJPerry

Originally posted by Skodljivec
the open is very borderline

If the 7h was the 8d, how much would that improve the strength of the hand?

10fold ♦ I mean ok not 10fold, but change it and it's an open on every table from every position for every player every time :)

Similar if it was an offsuit 8? Obviously you'd rather be double-suited but it's still a much stronger hand with a bottom gap than not, right?

Presumably the original hand (T976ss) is an OK cutoff and/or button raise?


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30.10.2015, 12:47

Yeah sure, even ss it's an open and much stronger than this hand. And yeah your assumptions are correct about the original hand being a good open from CO and BTN. On some tables you can get away with opening it earlier as well like stated before.


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30.10.2015, 12:59

You can use PPT hand rankings to figure out hand strengths. It's a good starting point.

7h6s9dTs is 36%
8d6s9dTs is 20%
8h6s9dTs is 39%


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30.10.2015, 14:24

You can use PPT hand rankings to figure out hand strengths. It's a good starting point.

What is this PPT you are talking about? Where can I download it and how much it costs?
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30.10.2015, 14:53

Originally posted by Kyyberi
You can use PPT hand rankings to figure out hand strengths. It's a good starting point.

7h6s9dTs is 36%
8d6s9dTs is 20%
8h6s9dTs is 39%

How can T976 be better than T986? Clearly your calculation is wrong here


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30.10.2015, 14:56

Is that not "it is in the top X% of hands"?


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30.10.2015, 19:08

Originally posted by MJPerry
Is that not "it is in the top X% of hands"?

I assume it is, but there's no reason why the same hand with a mid gap would be a superior hand. It's like saying AQ is better than AK


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31.10.2015, 10:34

Because it has better board coverage and it can make 20 out wraps.


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