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excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button (t5580)
SB (t5038)
BB (t3425)
UTG (t7385)
Hero (MP) (t8895)
CO (t3160)

Hero's M: 59.30

Preflop: Hero is MP with J♣, J♠
3 folds, Hero raises to t300, 3 folds, SB raises to t900, 1 fold, Hero calls t600

Flop: (t1900) K♣, 8♠, J♥ (2 players)
SB bets t900, Hero calls t900

Turn: (t3700) 3♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t3700) J♦ (2 players)
SB bets t3238 (All-In), Hero calls t3238

Total pot: t10176

Spoiler

SB had K♠, K♥ (full house, Kings over Jacks).
Hero had J♣, J♠ (four of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won t10176

If i were him i would be so gutted.

But I am not.


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dont post results as you want to know how you played it ,

after you seen flop , you want to get all in at some point & get called , dont mind calling flop but you shoud bet turn to get him pot commited , something like 2000

nh , but try to hide results before coaches see it


alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008
Oldschool Grinder

I agree with curnow , I don't like cheking behind turn, our goal is to be all in by the river, and this play gives him a easier way out of the hand. (most of the times, here neither hero or villian are going anywhere)


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008
Oldschool Grinder

preflop looks good

Depends on the level of play... and reads on villian... In a $20 tourney I think I would never ever flat call that flop except vs bad opponents... Lower buy in and like in this case I think calling the flop is like lala okay... If he's aggressive and will 2nd barrel some bad hands... yah go ahead and call...

as played on the turn you have to bet... now there is a draw out there so well maybe you get value out of that.... Dudes alarms probably went off after you floated him on that flop.. which makes him wanna slow down with Kx and maybe some AJ type of hands... but they're still calling your bets.... and if you want to get your money in on the river you have to start building the pot.

and I agree with above posters this is one of the spots where analyzes could get results orientated but I think most of us and the hand judges don't care about the results anymore :)


excelgeo Topic starter
excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

how can you say it is badly played i wanted him to think he is in control.. as it turns out he was..

but let him carry on betting i had the second nuts, i wanted him to milk me, i thought KA or KQ so he will bet strong, which he did. how can you say i played this badly? is slowplaying not allowed anymore?


Originally posted by excelgeo
how can you say it is badly played i wanted him to think he is in control.. as it turns out he was..

but let him carry on betting i had the second nuts, i wanted him to milk me, i thought KA or KQ so he will bet strong, which he did. how can you say i played this badly? is slowplaying not allowed anymore?

its not about the results & thats why + it would influance the reply you get so dont post it

you got lucky & hit youre one outer but the chances are that he has not got set as well , cold decks play themselfs anyway & dont matter what you or he did cause chips are going in at some point


Originally posted by excelgeo
how can you say it is badly played i wanted him to think he is in control.. as it turns out he was..

but let him carry on betting i had the second nuts, i wanted him to milk me, i thought KA or KQ so he will bet strong, which he did. how can you say i played this badly? is slowplaying not allowed anymore?

i like your slowplay here on the flop- there are no draws except for AQ drawing for a straight, so slowplaying your set of jacks is close to perfect in this situation.
on the turn there are 2 possible draws you are giving a freecard to.
the club draw (not very likley) and somebody with AQ can be drawing to a straight still.
the main goal should be not to protect against the draws, but to get some value out of them before the river comes and crushes them.
see on the turn you might get a call from 2 clubs, on the river, when he sees the flush didnt come, he wont pay you anything.
still I like your slowplay here, because neither of the draws are very likely, although the AQ is somehow consistent with his betting, he reraised preflop (somehow agressive but perfect because playing AQ ooP without beeing the agressor is just bull****).
on the flop he bets at you, still this play would be made with AQ. on the turn he decides to slow down and see if he can see a free river.

but you dont have to protect against this draw. its a 4 outer, he wont get the odds he needs, and what should you bet here ???

the pot is 3.700 and he has 3.200 left. so ANY bet, like 1/2 pot will commit him to the pot. so he cant call with AQ, he shouldnt call with the flush draw so the main problem is his stacksize.
if you bet anything at all it should be an all in, because every other bet looks ecven stronger because it seemes to lure him into the pot comitting him no matter what (true you CAN bet 800 or so to suck him in, but i dont like that play, it looks like a trap here and he knows it)
so checking the turn is not that bad. but this is just true because of his stacksize!

if he would have a larger stack say 5000 you should definetly bet the turn like 1/2 the pot. but against this stack, checking the turn is not that bad because the draws are unlikley and to week to get a call out of AQ.


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