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Top trips top kicker/live kickers on TT2 twotone board - what to do?

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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

HI guys am at work now but couldn't stop thinking about this hand so I decided to write it out for you, as I don't have the hand history with me right now.
Thanks in advance for answering and sharing your ideas.

Preflop: single raised pot UTG opens, MP calls, fold, I call on button, sb and bb fold.
Flop was Ts2sTc

My hand was AJT5ss and I was last to act.

Original Cbettor checked OOP, then middle guy with 35% range (he calls any pfr with 75% of his original vpip of 47% but only had 40 hands on him) donks 3/4 pot, and now it is up to me. I know that the original 3bettor probably doesn't have much, and he will probably fold
regardless of whether I call or raise. Folding here is out of the question with top trips top kicker, and all kickers higher than the other rank on the board (2). However, I am 120bb deep effetively, and raising here might lead to a reraise which I would not necessarily be too excited about, or I get a call and then a random rank x will show up on the turn and if it is not a AJor5 I would not know what to do.
Somewhat results oriented, all the last couple times I got it in on flop with top trips top kicker(+ live kickers) I still got it in behind, so I was hesitant to get it in here partly because of that.
So I call. Turn is a 9 which I do not consider to be a good card, but then again villain's range is still kind of wide and not sure if the 9 helped him or not (vs tighter player I would have disliked the 9 even more).
At this moment I gather I am up against a 35% range here including a T or 22 (some of these guys truly setmine with any PP).

So here I put him on a mix of any T, and 22 and vs this range in Equilab omaha, I see the odds go 56% on flop to 45% on turn to 31% on river for my hand.

Anyways he bets half pot on turn, and I call. I stay unimproved with the 9c, now he bets half pot again on river after the 6d hits. I need to have the best hand here 25% to make the call correct, which doesn't sound like a lot but still I hav a hard time calling. Call here with "unimproved" top trips top kicker as played or fold? Am I laying down the best hand here too often? Should I have raised flop with 120bb effective stack and isolate vs stronger hands or hope villain will overplay his trips with lower kicker perhaps? If I raise and he goes all
that is not good news imo but even if I raise and he only flats and I miss turn, what do I do then, keep firing seems like an overplay to me? Definitely
don't want to turn my trips into a huge overplay and take myself to valuetown. I was thinking if I hit my hand/kicker I can still extract value on later streets.


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

You need to make up a plan on the flop. What kind of a player he is? Folding on the flop is definitely out of the question.

If he has a bluff, how likely he is going to bet the turn/river?
If he has an overpair, how likely he is going to bet the turn/river?
If he has an overpair, how likely he is going to call your flop raise, and turn/river bets?
If he has trips, how likely he is going to bet them unimproved turn/river?
If he has trips, how likely he is to re-raise your flop raise? Or call turn/river bets after your flop raise?

As you can see there are a lot of questions, and any information you have on the player can help here.

Against totally unknown I would raise the flop as he often has Txxx and he is never folding it.


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

Thanks Kyyberi great answer


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

Ok one last question though as I was 120bb deep, how do you proceed if you raise flop, get called and you brick turn but the 9 appears? Just go with it and see it as an extension of the flop-all-in plan or...


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

I think I would need some reads to make decision there. Is he statoning enough to call with less than T? If not, 9 is a card that hits afwully well with hands that have T.

Pot will be 50ish and you've 100 behind OTT, so theoretically yoi could bet-fold too, as you've only 6 or 9 outs against FH. Of course then we need those reads, if he check-shoves is it always FH, or could he bluff / semibluff / overplay worse.


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

Thanks guys!


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