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$1,35 knockout on Stars - faceing 22bb open shove from BTN

 
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mylove190207
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15.12.2015, 10:13

PokerStars - $1+$0.25+$0.10|8500/17000 Ante 2125 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 17.9 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 46)
MP+1: 3.8 BB (VPIP: 10.87, PFR: 5.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
MP+2: 17.85 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
CO: 17.65 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
BTN: 21.83 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 26.31 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (BB): 10.96 BB
UTG: 28.35 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG+1: 27.88 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has 8♣ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 21.71 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

BTN wins 3.63 BB

I was reviewing this hand in HRC, but I really don't know whit what will opponent do that. On SB is opponent with 26bb, so I assume that BTN will open shove really strong range. Something like: TT+, AJs+, AQo+. Maybe even tighter?

HRC give him too wide range here in my opinion and that is why I wanna ask you what range will you give to BTN?


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15.12.2015, 10:44

I guess it’s not about your own hand, because I would fold Q8o for sure here.

It’s likely the button has a capped range here. That means that he most likely raising hands like QQ+ and pushing with weaker holdings. I expect a unknown will shove with approximately 22-JJ, Ax+, KTo+, K9s+, QTo+, Q9s+, JTo, JTs and maybe even T9s.

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metza
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15.12.2015, 11:30

There are a ton of hands like SDK listed that are +EV jams with 21bb but at the same time especially in a $1.35 tourney its gonna be far more profitable to minraise.


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mylove190207
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15.12.2015, 12:33

Originally posted by SDK1987
I guess it’s not about your own hand, because I would fold Q8o for sure here.

Yea definitely clear fold here with Q8o. But I was wondering whit what I can call here and was not sure about opponent shoving range.

And definitely I agree that open raise is far better option than open shove, unless SB and BB are aggro and you don't wanna r/f profitable open shoves and hand is too weak for r/c. But the fact is that opponent open shove and I am not sure what range.

Thanks for answers!!

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15.12.2015, 16:47

Originally posted by SDK1987
I guess it’s not about your own hand, because I would fold Q8o for sure here.

It’s likely the button has a capped range here. That means that he most likely raising hands like QQ+ and pushing with weaker holdings. I expect a unknown will shove with approximately 22-JJ, Ax+, KTo+, K9s+, QTo+, Q9s+, JTo, JTs and maybe even T9s.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I agree with that range and agree with a capped range.
VS a range like: JJ-33,AQs-A2s,AQo-A4o,KTs+,KQo (capped QQ+, AK+)
You can call with: 44+,A8s+,A9o+ (i probably fold 44 because the edge is close)


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