QQ rivered set, flush completes on board, is there value in raising?

I would call the river bet. What if you get re-raised and you get to a situation of pot committed? I highly doubt he would have played a runner runner flush draw. But I think he could have played 10s this way. I don't put him on 4 5. 10 9 is a possibility but doesn't matter to call with a set. I just feel this is a call(just my opinion).

Well this is an ugly one... Call and make a note here.

This is a tough spot. He can easily have a lower set or 2pair kind of hand. When the possible flush completes I would just call OTR.

Super tempting to raise here. He can't really show up with KJ too often, and there are very few flush combos - 56s, A2s, A3s are about all. On the other hand, it wouldn't be a surprise to see T9, 54, 44/55, none of which will fold if you shove given the odds.

I think a raise is a bit thin but probably +EV.

Villain doesn't have a full stack.
Over 174 hands his stats are 22/12/64
He called as BB a CO raise. IMO this eliminates KK+ and AK.
On the flop -rainbow board- he donks and called a raise. IMO does Villain not have a hand he needs to protect. IMO 2pair or better.
Does his hand have 2 clubs? In that case he would need a runner-runner club. So a 2-club hand is very unlikely.
On the turn: x/c. His stack is 79bb. After Hero's bet is the pot 46bb.
On the river Villain bets first: 32bb leaves him with a stack of 26bb. IMO this is a blocking bet.
Hero can reraise all in.

Well, if he donks flop, he deff have Tx, or u just have big fold2donkbet, assume he dont have full stack, he also dont use hud. So i like to think he has QT, but with too many blockers my opinion doesnt make much sence ♦ Anyway i would call and make note with what hand he donks.

EDIT: I looked at spoiler and u can mark him as fish, coz no1 will donk 2nd pair at flop in that spot imo. You should not reraise at river for sure!!!

Bd flush and straight got there and he donks again. ..I do not like raising. ..

Hmm, lot of opinions and many of those make sense. Both options - raise and call. So still no idea what is best

BrokeSoBroke said to ship, because of 2 pair hands. If he has flush, then sucks to be me

IMO this eliminates KK+

vs fish - this does not eliminate for me. Fish likes to slowplay KK+ preflop, I think especially AA, because there is no overcards for it.

u can mark him as fish

I mark him as fish once I saw stack like 91 bb .

So i like to think he has QT, but with too many blockers my opinion doesnt make much sence

I think it is one of the hands which he has in this range. We have blockers, but it still is possible.

I tried to put him on range, and see how often he has flush. So if he donks 2 pairs and sets on river and slowplays on turn, the flush is relatively rare.

maybe should filter database to find similar situations what fish oponents show up with this line. Or maybe somebody also is interested in doing so?

I would have just called the river in this spot. He could have a lower a set, but with the flush and straight coming on the river, I would just call.

Maybe I would put him to a stack decision OTF already but it depends what kind of player this is. A passive player is a call for me and with too much aggression it's an easy fold. Against a fish you would love to let him bet all the way and enjoy the suck out from his side, that is. Most times you will win.

It should be the other way around- vs passive player we should fold and vs an aggressive one- we can call.

Made a filter. Out of my 170k hands database I only found 4 hands by this pokertracker filter, I am surprized

(Raised Flop 2Bet (First Flop Raise)) AND (NOT (Specific Bet Opportunity Continuation Bet Opportunity)) AND (First Turn Action Bet) AND (NOT (Raise Opportunity 3Bet)) AND (Raise Opportunity 2Bet (First River Raise)) AND (NOT (Checked Flop)) AND (First River Action Call OR Raise)

maybe I have done wrong filter, but ok.

I saw most of hands nuts or close to nuts. One hand was where he had trips when straight was possible, and he was short and only donked 1 bb on flop.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 165.2 BB
SB: 35.12 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 132.32 BB
CO: 117.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♥ 5♦

fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 9♥ A♣ A♠
SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 5.6 BB, SB calls 4.6 BB

Turn: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets 7.6 BB, SB calls 7.6 BB

River: (34.4 BB, 2 players) 6♦
SB bets 17.92 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 17.92 BB

SB shows A♦ 4♣ (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 59%, Flop 98%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows 8♥ 5♦ (Straight, Nine High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 2%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 67.08 BB

If I include hands which I folded on river, I got 10 totaly. From that sample we cannot tell much. Or maybe thats.
What can be wrong with my filter. Can it be reality that its only so few hands where actions wen t this way. I did not even put preflop filter.

What is the idea of your preflop play here? Especially vs a shortstack...
Postflop is "Adrenalin Rush Club".

Originally posted by nitrol
What is the idea of your preflop play here? Especially vs a shortstack...
Postflop is "Adrenalin Rush Club".
in the 85o hand - idea is that he has weak range by limping and will fold preflop or post flop often. But now I do not iso with such weak hands or maybe I saw high fold to cbet in the stats.

Just check and see a flop with such weak hands.