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Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2837802
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UTG: $2.09
MP: $1.38
CO: $2.18
Hero (BTN): $2.27
SB: $2.10
BB: $0.68

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with T :heart: A :heart:
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, SB raises to $0.28, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 7 :heart: K :diamond: 4 :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.31, SB calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.22) 8 :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.22) Q :heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Do we stab on the flop vs misscbet or not ?
Villain stats : 32 / 26 / 6.2 cbet 0 ( 3 ) in 3bet pot hands 302


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

K74 is a board that should be cbetted like a 100% by PFA.
When he missed, I think we can stab.


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He had ACES , yea I know :spit: . Took a note and now I will crush him next time.


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Inv1ctus83
Joined: 06.10.2013

Hum the pot is already inflated yes, but I usually don't like the flop bet and turn check behind. He will call with TT+ here a lot imo, so the question is if we want to get him of those hands or not. If yes then bet flop and turn is the best option no? But we would really have to know the opponent, cause we'd be putting in more than half of our stack already. Otherwise just check behind the flop and get a free card.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Villain should cbet that board almost always. It is weird that he doesn't now. I think I would check behind and if villain checks turn again I would bet both turn and river. When you bet on the flop I think turn bet is required to get any folds.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

On this board, nothing that called flop will fold on turn, so we have to do 1 stab, imo.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
On this board, nothing that called flop will fold on turn, so we have to do 1 stab, imo.

Some BDFDs, TT,JJ,QQ.. But then again those hands will not likely 3bet pre so you might be right.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It is a 3 bet pot. Nothing of the above will call flop and fold turn.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by Bugghy
He had ACES

Fucking lol

At least he played one street OK.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
It is a 3 bet pot. Nothing of the above will call flop and fold turn.

I can see QQ 3betting and calling one street on K high board.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I see QQ even cbetting the flop.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I see it check calling pretty often also.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Turn is a blank, so no need to continue bluffing.
Even QQ can call twice.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

By betting twice we can easily rep AK for example and I doubt that QQ will call second bet.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

QQ can call twice but that is not the essence. The main idea is that we can stab once on flop with 2 overs and BDFD, but should shut down on this turn. All hands that you enlisted are cbetting this flop...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Almost all of those hands will call flop bet also and we will lose at showdown.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

So what? We see an opportunity - villain is not cbetting and we stab. If he calls and we do not upgrade - we should stop investing as there is not that big chance that villain will fold on this turn. It is as simple as that.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Stabbing otf is fine. I just tried to think about alternative lines. I thought that if villain knows that he is looking weak by not cbetting he could call our bet with a wide range and that is why single stab doesn't accomplish much -> it would be better not to stab here? Maybe my reasoning is wrong.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

NL2 guys play their hands, man. :)
They do not bother, they look weak or exploitable.
In this particular case the AA let us do the betting.


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krasops
Joined: 02.02.2014

no need to stab this board with A high .. most of his good pairs will call one street @ least even on Kh board....
Check back Flop and call IP every turn that improves us heart, J,A,Q,T..... if he checks turn too .. stab it.


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