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xin1575
Joined: 22.10.2015

UTG: $13.09 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: $25.67 (VPIP: 83.33, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 6)
CO: $14.65 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: $11.71
SB: $4.55
Hero (BB): $12.42

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♦ T♦

UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.20
This hand was early in a cash session, so I only have 6 hands on these players. Preflop, I think this is a standard call against players I have virtually no reads on, but is there anyone here that likes raising preflop?

Flop: ($1.25, 4 players) 9♦ A♣ T♥
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.62, MP calls $0.62, fold, Hero raises to $2.06, UTG calls $1.44, MP calls $1.44
On the flop, I hit top 2 pair on a semi-drawing board. I thought about donking out here, but with 4 people in the pot, I figured someone would bet at it and I could isolate with a check raise. I put the UTG player on a strong range (99+, AJ+, maybe KQ) and I put MP on a drawing/weak hand (JQ, Ax, 78, Tx) since he didn't raise preflop or after UTG bet the flop. Is my check raise too small here? After both players call my raise, I still put them on the same ranges.

Turn: ($7.43, 3 players) K♠
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $3.00, Hero?
I felt like the K on the Turn was the worst card I could see. Now I'm beat by more hands in their ranges. I opted to check instead of betting since I didn't feel I can get value from anything other than AQ and AJ. And I folded to a bet even though I'm getting 3.48:1 to call because I just can't see either player bluffing in this spot. Thoughts?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

The Ks on this turn helped A LOT the MP range.
Putted on equilab a similar range to the guys, similar to what u mentioned... and his equity goes from 15,98% on flop, to 34,97% on the turn.

U still have reasonable equity... but the thing really is if he is doing this w the combos that didnt improved in a way that beats u.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

PF is a perfect spot for a squeeze.
MW I like to start betting from flop, so I'm donking.
As played I would raise bigger on flop.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

Originally posted by nitrol
PF is a perfect spot for a squeeze.
MW I like to start betting from flop, so I'm donking.
As played I would raise bigger on flop.

Agree, apart from the perfect to squeeze part. When Villains don't like to fold a lot to 3bets I'd rather overcall.

I think leading out is the best option by far. Reason is that by check-raising we isolate ourselves against better and it's harder to get some action from good opponents. As played.. well.. you gotta potcontrol the turn. After the action on the flop I don't see anything worse (apart from some lost A9s) betting and would comfortably check/fold


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How did you decide that they do not fold to 3bet? And why not looking at Fold to squeeze stat?


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

It's just a overall population read on the micros vs. unknown opponents I picked up over the years


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

On micros players tend to fold more vs squeezing. That is my observation and this is the reason I suggested to squeeze. Plus our hand is not total trash.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Squeeze pre, nobrainer


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
How did you decide that they do not fold to 3bet? And why not looking at Fold to squeeze stat?

In six hands look to such stat? Interesting...


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

I think suited broadways like ATs is better calling in this spot. If this was an offsuit broadway now gets more interesting to squeeze, since they doesnt play well mwp and have blockers.
Still, with a raise from UTG, I dont think squeezing light good at all.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
How did you decide that they do not fold to 3bet? And why not looking at Fold to squeeze stat?

In six hands look to such stat? Interesting...

We are talking about general concept here. Do not enter...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Afulibador
I think suited broadways like ATs is better calling in this spot. If this was an offsuit broadway now gets more interesting to squeeze, since they doesnt play well mwp and have blockers.
Still, with a raise from UTG, I dont think squeezing light good at all.

I disagree. With calling you can easily be dominated postflop and playind a FD OOP will not be that effective... Squeeze can generate folds, we will have the initiative, we have blocker, we are suited.

If we were on the BTN and playing IP, then a call would be the better move here.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You can squeeze pre. OTF I would donk. As played you could raise bigger flop and maybe you should bet fold OTT?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador
I think suited broadways like ATs is better calling in this spot. If this was an offsuit broadway now gets more interesting to squeeze, since they doesnt play well mwp and have blockers.
Still, with a raise from UTG, I dont think squeezing light good at all.

I disagree. With calling you can easily be dominated postflop and playind a FD OOP will not be that effective... Squeeze can generate folds, we will have the initiative, we have blocker, we are suited.

If we were on the BTN and playing IP, then a call would be the better move here.

I dont think we ll get so many folds w a strong range UTG is probably opening.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
How did you decide that they do not fold to 3bet? And why not looking at Fold to squeeze stat?

In six hands look to such stat? Interesting...

We are talking about general concept here. Do not enter...

what do u mean by "do not enter"?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I will surprise you but if UTG is opening 10-12 percent he will continue with a 4% range- 99+, AQs, AKo, this means he will still fold a big part of his range.
And in most cases the squeeze is made when we have a TAG UTG, and LAG callers, as we hope the tight UTG will fold ans we will face the LAGcallers with wider ranges...


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Really surprised me... I didnt expected those numbers.
Made the analisis in equilab, and yes, UTG can actually fold about 65% of the time here.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You are really insulting me...


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

why are u saying that?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

By doubting what I say... :)


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