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A difficult call with 2 pairs

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Hi Guyz,

I would like to discuss a poker hand I played in live $1/2 cash game at a local casino.

Hero : $100 UTG +1 - J♠:9♠:
Villain : $ 250 MP : Unknown hand

Action folds to me, I limp and the villain raises to 8 and others fold and I call the raise.

Flop : A♥:J♦:8♠:

I bet 10 for information and the villain raises to 25. I made the call as only AA,AK,AQ,AJ,KK he could be playing this with a slim chances of JJ/88. This person was really tight in the previous hands. I wanted to see one more street and make him slow down.

Turn : 9♦: - I hit 2 pair.

I check because this guy raised my flop bet. He bets 25. What should I do here?

Thanks
Vignesh M


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Hey Vignesh,
how many players were in that hand?


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Only me and the other guy. Others folded.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

I mean at the table, that were dealt cards.
Like... six players? nine?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It was 9-10 seats?

I do not like limping. On flop we should not donk but x call and let villain bet with his whole range.
As played you should fold vs the flop raise.

OTT when you hit 2P you can call.

P.S. Do not bet for information. Bet for value or to make better hands fold. Or to collect dead money. Cause you got the information with your bet and did not fold...


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I guess we don't want to fall into a trap of open limping hands like J9s on the UTG+1 just because we saw Daniel Negreanu doing that on TV. ;) So, I wouldn't open limp. I don't have any experience with live games, so maybe I'm wrong with this. As played, the hand is perfect for bluffcatching the flop. I think we don't have a value bet there and nothing better will fold. As played, I would check/call the turn because we get lucky hitting two pairs, but wouldn't be too happy if he bets any river, so maybe on the river we could bet ourselves, half pot, and fold if he raises.


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Oh sorry, it was a 9 of us out there in the table.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Alright Vignesh,
with nine people at the table, I think its a fold pre already in UTG+1.
If u play it, its a fold after the 3bet.
If u call it, its a check/call on flop.

Theres no value in betting for information, this is an old school thinking that ll not make any good to ur game.
Bet for value, protection, bluff... information ll come always. Even if villain checks when u dont bet thats information.

Good luck, friend.


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Cool. Thanks...so I think I shd have folded preflop since I was in early position right? I made the call on the turn and the river was check/check and the guy showed AQ. Ultimately I won, but looking at the line I think may be it was a lucky pot. Need to improve on this.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You should read some of the articles and watch the videos.
Try not to invest money in the potfor no reason. Just staying aggressivecan be a costly thing.
Try not to limp.Forget about the "get the info" bets.
And as you play live - stay focused and watch carefully.


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Sure dude. Thanks for the ideas. I like what Alleen said earlier, this was purely trying to use Daniel's small ball approach in which i made a mistake of continuing a bit extra with just a J on the flop.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by vicky18
Cool. Thanks...so I think I shd have folded preflop since I was in early position right? I made the call on the turn and the river was check/check and the guy showed AQ. Ultimately I won, but looking at the line I think may be it was a lucky pot. Need to improve on this.

Nice hearing u say that.
Many guys think they played the hand perfectly just because the result of winning.

The fact is, as I believe u already noticed, u can play it perfectly and loose... or way wrong an win it. Thats what make things harder for people to develop in poker just by playing it, and never thinking in a more deep way the game.


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Yeah thanks mate. Really encouraging me to learn and improve more. I will post another hand which I won by playing really well. Need your comments there too.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

And u ll surely have it _biggrin:
Got me curious, btw. See u there.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I guess this is NL200 ($1/$2) as well. So I changed your prefix for you in NL100+.
NL2 are the blinds 1c/2c.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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