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AK - facing all in on A high dry board

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thebaptist333
Joined: 13.01.2009

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2851441
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BTN: $2.44
Hero (SB): $4.27
BB: $2.21
UTG: $2.74
MP: $2.86
CO: $6.49

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with K :club: A :spade:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.04, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, BB calls $0.14, MP calls $0.12, BTN calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.64) 4 :club: A :heart: 7 :spade: (4 players)
Hero bets $0.44, BB raises to $2.05 all in, MP folds, BTN folds, Hero folds

I think I give away a lot of money in these hands. My red line is pretty miserable and I think it's because of hands like this.

Should I be calling in this spot? I feel like every time I decide to call in a spot like this, villain has A4 or some other ridiculous hand that has me beat.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Man, I know it is hardto fold TPTK, but here he is pushing vs 3. Board is dry and he has a strong hand. I do not think he will do this often with AQ/AJ...
Good fold.

And you do not have to worrie that much about your red line on nl2.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Easy fold, especially 3-ways.


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Yes fold here and be happy!:f_drink:

Unless the villain is crazy (like 85/50/12AF) then calling is fine.


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I know folding AK when you hit top pair, top kicker is hard, but I think you made a really good fold here. Especially 3 way. But I don't see him shoving without a very strong hand in this spot.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think it's fine. I would just make it $0,20 preflop since the openner minraised. I would also bet 1/2 on a dry board, especially multi-way where they will play more straight-forward than in HU pots.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Folding seems good here.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Good fold, thebaptist333. Many others would call and draw almost dead vs such strong range that probably is shoving here.


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htghguuh
Joined: 02.01.2014

Yes fold
Like I learnt the hard way on this hand you need the k
I went through the stage where u raise the KA and then re raise if raised going into a 4bet it's rubbish u have static ly 68%
Also statically you have given you're hand away by doing that
I played them different before I studied the article and made money by folding them ug mp
Or just calling bb and seeing how much it would cost too use them
Like they miss big 99 to QQ strips them bad


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

htghguuh,
I did not understand what do you suggest in your post. Please elaborate.


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htghguuh
Joined: 02.01.2014

sorry for delay in reply
Well from outset i use AK pretty much from any position ,and lost loads.Most probably because i played them incorrectly.
Basicly using them and then not reading opponents ranges,or not getting stats on villian.

Then i was folding them UG to mp this( is on 6max table. micro) and calling into or using them to steal the blinds.
This seemed to work well enough and got a bit off profit,not a lot.
Then i watched a video on how to make the most out off your AK.
I applied this strategy and it worked pretty well ,especially the 3xbb from UG MP,get the folds or called and win.
The re-raise from cu to bb was a disaster every time the AK missed and board was dry,and got called down with pocket pairs.
A6 winning with 6 and so on,and even iff i got A K on the flop got outdrawn with full house 33 -AA. or opponents chasing flush draws.
thus taking all the small gains,and putting them back on loss.
This could most probably be mistake on my behalve on latching onto them and not letting go.
Im not saying the video tuition is wrong ,but by many losses on them i use them with caution now.
I could also be wrong here again because i lpay the same site so people have notes etc ,That is why i say the 3xbb from ug mp is giving the hand away.
SO ME I DONT KNOW?????


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Man, AK is in top 2-3% of hands. You SHOULD play them.
Of course you should be cautious postflop when you missed, but still it is a very strong hand.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by htghguuh
sorry for delay in reply
Well from outset i use AK pretty much from any position ,and lost loads.Most probably because i played them incorrectly.
Basicly using them and then not reading opponents ranges,or not getting stats on villian.

Then i was folding them UG to mp this( is on 6max table. micro) and calling into or using them to steal the blinds.
This seemed to work well enough and got a bit off profit,not a lot.
Then i watched a video on how to make the most out off your AK.
I applied this strategy and it worked pretty well ,especially the 3xbb from UG MP,get the folds or called and win.
The re-raise from cu to bb was a disaster every time the AK missed and board was dry,and got called down with pocket pairs.
A6 winning with 6 and so on,and even iff i got A K on the flop got outdrawn with full house 33 -AA. or opponents chasing flush draws.
thus taking all the small gains,and putting them back on loss.
This could most probably be mistake on my behalve on latching onto them and not letting go.
Im not saying the video tuition is wrong ,but by many losses on them i use them with caution now.
I could also be wrong here again because i lpay the same site so people have notes etc ,That is why i say the 3xbb from ug mp is giving the hand away.
SO ME I DONT KNOW?????

I think u are focusing too much about being outdrawed vs an A6, pp and these stuff when they actually happen too little. For me, what is possible is that u bet when hit ur A or K, but never folds vs aggression (massive leak). If a guy is passive and raises u posflop or the action goes crazy, ur TPTK hand is no good anymore and u should give up.
Just by doing that AK should show profit already.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

AK is a difficult hand to play. It wins, but doesn't win as much as it should for many players. Search the video section for "Playing AK" and you will find some goodies.


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htghguuh
Joined: 02.01.2014

Originally posted by YohanN7
AK is a difficult hand to play. It wins, but doesn't win as much as it should for many players. Search the video section for "Playing AK" and you will find some goodies.

that's the video i watched and lost over 10000 hands but that's not a good hand evaluation???
ok i will give thanks where it is due very hard patch i went through ,frozen basically even on the AA .
but i have now swung it back yea i have been just folding the good value even on flop board ragged ???,
so i got KA again day
raised 3*bb called but lost with paired J ON jA s call, so ok it was check check so no big loss
Ak Ug 3* bb all fold
AK CU MP RAISE 28BB ,ME 10,CALLED RAGGI 5 8 10 GOOD VILLIAN TRIES 4* CALL BAB FLOP K VILLAIN TRIES ALL IN I PUT HIM A 10 CALLED HIM
TOTALLY CORRECT IWIN
I MUST START POSTING HANDS TO GET MORE


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Posting hands will help you much.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Yep, and post it properly. So people can get it better _thumbsup:


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htghguuh
Joined: 02.01.2014

Cool


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