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PotBox
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Joined: 12.01.2016
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01.02.2016, 04:20

This was on the final table with 6 players left.
I was in the big blind facing a full 3x from UTG. This was his standard raise sizing from any position.

His stats were sort of nitty so this was probably a fold. At best I'm flipping since I doubt he's raising any worse pair from that position.

I ended up shoving and hitting quad 8s... but that's beside the point :f_biggrin:

Would you have shoved, or waited for a better spot?
I ended up finishing 4th place and busting in AA vs QQ with a Q on the flop, so I guess the luck came back around. :f_mad:
Did I mention the guy with Qs was Russian... :facepalm:

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888 Poker - $2.70+$0.30|6000/12000 Ante 1500 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: 46.55 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 49)
MP: 100.03 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 10.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 98)
CO: 72.47 BB (VPIP: 22.11, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 95)
BTN: 27.62 BB (VPIP: 29.81, PFR: 5.83, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 104)
SB: 34.31 BB (VPIP: 24.50, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 154)
Hero (BB): 14.85 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has 8c 8s
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14.73 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 11.73 BB

Flop : (30.71 BB, 2 players) 4s 8h Jc

Turn : (30.71 BB, 2 players) 8d

River : (30.71 BB, 2 players) Ac

UTG shows Th Tc (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 82%, Flop 12%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows 8c 8s (Four of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 18%, Flop 88%, Turn 100%)

Hero wins 30.71 BB


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SDK1987
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01.02.2016, 08:37

I don’t know how the prize structure looks like, but you are far the short stack and you have most likely not too much fold equity. Even without the prize pool info I would shove as short stack with 88 and try to double up here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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PotBox
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01.02.2016, 09:01

I guess a list of the prize structure would have helped in this scenario. It looked something similar to this.

1st - $360
2nd - $260
3rd - $190
4th - $140
5th - $100
6th - $80

My reasoning for calling was similar to your thinking. I was in need of a double up and if I was to pass up a hand this good I would probably just end up blinding away. The table was very aggressive giving me very limited room to steal the blinds with a shove. 9/10 times there was a raise in front of me and like you said I had no fold equity. Good thing I hit quads right? :f_tongue:


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01.02.2016, 09:28 +1

That for sure, but I expect it’s unlucky that you walked in to better in this scenario and lucky that you hit quads here.


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Malendes
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01.02.2016, 09:58 +1

Originally posted by PotBox
9/10 times there was a raise in front of me and like you said I had no fold equity. Good thing I hit quads right? :f_tongue:

With no fold equity on later hands, I think 88 is a shove here too, and I would expect a lot of calls from broadway hands that you have a slight advantage against.


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