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FR: QQ hit another Q on a difficult board!

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kiromanAAKK
Joined: 08.10.2009

Pacific, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $2.08 (104 bb)
BB: $1.21 (60.5 bb)
UTG: $1.54 (77 bb)
MP: $8.30 (415 bb)
CO: $2.72 (136 bb)
BTN: $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.16, BB folds, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.34) 2 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.34) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, CO raises to $0.67, Hero?

villain - VPIP: 25, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 1.9, Hands: 110

:club: Villain seems a sensible player, so, I should bet the flop, right?

:club: What if he raise some strong draws (or even a combo-draws), should I shove to make expensive his eventual River or I should just give up?

:club: Am I behind already flop or turn?

TY :)


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

In my opinion, you are overthinking this hand. You're lost in a 3bet pot, with top set (the mortal nuts) when you get raised? Forget all other calculations and shove.

What is so difficult on this board? I ask because I don't think J-10 would play like this preflop. If he does, good for him. He coolered you.

Villain seems a sensible player, so, I should bet the flop, right?

I don't know what sensible mean, but yeah, you should bet the flop.

What if he raise some strong draws (or even a combo-draws), should I shove to make expensive his eventual River or I should just give up?

Just shove for value and don't bother on what he can call you with. You're way ahead.

Am I behind already flop or turn?

On the flop you are 100% ahead, because you have the best hand that can be made, the top set. On the turn, except for the J-10 combinations, you're still ahead.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You have nuts OTF, you should bet yourself here. OTT you can just shove. Villain can have overpairs, 2pair, lower sets.. Only JT is better than your hand OTT.


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wimNP
Joined: 11.03.2011

Hero has his set. Even if Villain has the straight, Hero has 10 unclean outs (roughly 20%) to improve to a full house on the river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You have the nuts on flop, so you can bet and try to get it in. Do not be tricky, if you do not have a clear plan. Do not miss value.
Agree with shoving turn , as played.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

This is a pretty easy board.

You flop the nuts and, on the turn, have the second nuts. Flop is an obvious bet. Turn, as played, is a shove.

Originally posted by kiromanAAKK
:club: Villain seems a sensible player, so, I should bet the flop, right?

Yes, but you should bet the flop against almost anyone when you flop the nuts.

Originally posted by kiromanAAKK
:club: What if he raise some strong draws (or even a combo-draws), should I shove to make expensive his eventual River or I should just give up?

You're ahead of JcTc and more so JThh or AcXc. He'll also raise 99 and such, which you have absolutely crushed. So yes, if he raises you should shove unless you have some read that he raise/folds flop a lot but often barrels turn when called.

Originally posted by kiromanAAKK
:club: Am I behind already flop or turn?

If you're behind on the flop then I'd ask Pacific Poker to take a look at their RNG because you have flopped the best possible hand!


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Yes, this is obvious, but an explanation is still warranted (the hand is posted after all). I think the real question is, if I flop a set and there are draws, should I play it small and hope all miss?

The answer is that whenever you flop a monster, you want your opponents to have a piece of the flop too. And you want to get as much money in as possible. Ideally, here you want to be against 2*JT or JT + a set. You shouldn't fear those hands. They are the hands against which you can win big pots with big hands.


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You flop the nuts. Why do you check? Get the money in as fast as possible.


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

Bet your monsters. When in doubt think about slowplaying, then remember slowplaying is stupid and bet anyway.

- even if you ignore all other advice about micros poker, remember that - bet your monsters :)


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