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HHHuBi
Joined: 12.12.2013

Pacific $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
UTG: $4.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 56
MP: $10.15 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 0.0, Hands: 62
CO: $15.95 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 8.0, Hands: 22
BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 23, 3B: 2, AF: 3.0, Hands: 177
Hero (SB): $10.00 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 25, 3B: 9, AF: 4.1, Hands: 1611
BB: $11.32 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 1.5, Hands: 56

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 2 :spade: Q :club:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: J :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.38, BB calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.36) 8 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($1.36) 2 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.68, Hero folds
what bottom range here I "should" call "balanced" and what bottom expo? thx


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Does villain have high fold to steal? Your steal looks a bit wide. Since BB checked turn I don't believe he has Jx or 88. The way you played this hand tells villain that you have nothing and he will be stabbing you with a wide range. I would call with higher pairs. Here folding seems fine.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

If villain is on the tight side opening Q2o seems OK.

There are plenty of busted draws and it's BvB so it's probably not the worst time to make a hero call, but there's no reason he can't have JT or 87 or something either.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Again 56 hand sample and we open a hand outside of our default range and of course we get in trouble.
Fold pre.
As played-fold.


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HHHuBi
Joined: 12.12.2013

this is my default range


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Lol. Tighten your ranges then.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by HHHuBi
this is my default range

You should tighten up a bit. More suited hands and less off-suit hands. You can open more off-suit Ax hands but I recommend that K9o,Q9o,J9o,T9o is the bottom of your opening range from SB :)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by HHHuBi
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what bottom range here I "should" call "balanced" and what bottom expo? thx

Fist off, I like your preflop stats. But the 3-bet is a little low for my taste:D

I'll help you to help yourself answering your question. It is the last action and your opponent invests (rounded) 7 to win 14. In case he is bluffing, he'd need to take it down 33% of the times, and if you want to be balanced, you should fold the bottom 33% of what you consider bluff catchers. It is thus your job to figure out which combinations you come into this spot with. Which hands are then the bluff catchers? Throw away the bottom 33%.

This recipe is not going to save you from bad play on earlier streets. If you come into the river with a hopeless range, then playing balanced on the river cannot save the situation. It is, in other words, not GTO in any sense. If you find you are coming into the river with ranges that seem vulnerable to either bluffs or value bets, the it is time to do something with the ranges on earlier streets. I'd do so if balance dictates that I call here.


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HHHuBi
Joined: 12.12.2013

YohanN7: thx I hope will be bigger..^^, I know that, I only wanted know what can I be calling +- here +not sure about villian range(and bit tired to do own analyze :f_biggrin:)


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Nice to see some one else playing LAG style like I do.

YohanN7 explained this to you well already so Im not going to explain it again.

Just thinking that you could apply alot of pressure to this villain since he did not raise otf on this drawy board. -> his top range is Jx. Mabye even weak Jx because hands like AJ could 3bet bvb.

On nl10 just make sure that the villain that you attack have low wtsd%

One more thing; If villain is not bluffing enough otr you can't call with your bluffcatchers. So your bluff catching range depends a lot on the villain.

Edit; on your stealing range. If villain is really nitty then this is fine open from SB. But remember that you can't steal with so wide range from SB vs not so tight players because you are always oop


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