JTs monsterdraw OOP

Playing such type of hands OOP is tough. It looks ok but its really hard to realize its equity. With 3ppl in the pot and with a clear MP fish i guess call is fine but i would be folding or squeezing this from the SB most of the time.

Check rasing the flop to balance with your 77/ AQ type of hands seems ok as plan Moreover, with CU still to act (he will fold a ton since he did not cbet) you have a lot of fold equity and demonstrate great power. Ready to barrel turn and river to fold his Ax type of hands as well as Ax with a flushdraw type hands.

I was thinking that we could squeeze pre flop but then again our hand might benefit from higher stack to pot ratio and it would be ok if the fish joined the pot so calling is fine. OTF we hit FD+GUTSHOT and I would lead there. Turn decision should be based on pot odds. Since it seems like we don't have enough equity, board is paired and we are not drawing to the nuts, I would fold.

Agree with folding the Turn. Would be a different story if the board wasn't paired. And since we are OOP it will be very hard to extract value on the river (check?, donk?,..?)

to estimate his range as he is tight, On the turn i would say he might have AKs/o, AQs/o, may be set of Q, Ax nut FD. So i believe fold on turn was right.

I like the analysis in OP. I like flop call better than raise.

Do we have the implied odds to call turn? Don't know. Post easier hands sergii1984.

I'm leaning towards fold ott.

Raise on flop mw will lead to us playing large potwith 12outs ( not all may be good).
I like the call OTF.
Turn is a fold with this paired board.

Prefer call OTF vs raising, by why not donk lead and take initiative?

Why donk mw? Ax is not folding.

We need some semibluffs in our donking range. Ax is not folding flop but we have more streets to barrle

Donk Barrelling mw on a bluff is not that good idea.

Should you only donk mw for value/protection?

It's a 4-way pot. I think that if we donk our draws here, we need at least some percentage of foldequity. This is not really given on a Axx since Ax is very prevalent among the players. It would be different if it was 3way. I just see the chance getting raised / not having enough foldequity as a problem that speaks loudly against the donk

Originally posted by jonnyZ
Should you only donk mw for value/protection?

3 way we do not have FE.

Originally posted by MisterSnS
It's a 4-way pot. I think that if we donk our draws here, we need at least some percentage of foldequity. This is not really given on a Axx since Ax is very prevalent among the players. It would be different if it was 3way. I just see the chance getting raised / not having enough foldequity as a problem that speaks loudly against the donk

It's a 3 way pot ...MP limper folded to raise....although it is stated there are 2 folds pre flop but 3 took the flop....
anyway I would CR all in

Why xr?