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Polezi
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30.05.2016, 21:40

[converted_hand][hand_history]Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $22.28 (222.8 bb) VPIP: 36, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 2,8, Hands: 169
Hero (BB): $18.92 (189.2 bb)
UTG: $22.79 (227.9 bb)
MP: $9.81 (98.1 bb)
CO: $12.61 (126.1 bb)
BTN: $11.01 (110.1 bb) VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, F3b 43, 4b range 1(45) AF: 2,1, Hands: 1822 Reg player

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♦ T♥
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.45, Hero raises to $2, MP folds, BTN calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.10) 3♠ 9♠ 2♣ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, BTN raises to $9.01 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero ???


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nitrol
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30.05.2016, 22:15

Give him a range now.


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Hesticus
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31.05.2016, 03:21

Fold here but I also would flat here pre-flop.


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nitrol
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31.05.2016, 05:10

Why would you flat?


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Sunrise1912
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31.05.2016, 10:06

1.8K hands should be enough sample for you to have reads or assign an accurate range.

In terms of GTO this should be a fold i guess. You have higher pairs to call with as well as strong flushdraws with over cards.


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straddle007
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31.05.2016, 10:23

Originally posted by nitrol
Why would you flat?

why not ?


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Hesticus
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31.05.2016, 11:09

It can also be a case of experience. Because with me, it raises questions. With who do we want to go postflop with a squeeze? What are we up against? How sure are we that BTN will fold with a 43% F3B? We have a large sample. I would need more info here from BTN since we have reliable stats. In general, do we have a skill and equity edge postflop here?


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nitrol
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31.05.2016, 11:41

We need fold-to-squeeze stat.
We want BU to fold and isolate the fishy SB.


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nitrol
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31.05.2016, 11:43

And what if MP 4b if we flat?


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Hesticus
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31.05.2016, 16:52

Indeed, we need those stats. 4B from MP that is an easy fold. Limp/raises from micro players are usually veeery strong


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la55i
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31.05.2016, 18:39

I think squeezing this pre is fine. OTF you could call but folding is not wrong. I think BTN would have shoved KK+ pre and I don't think he is playing JJ,QQ like this postflop? He also has draws in his range.


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Polezi
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01.06.2016, 14:33

Originally posted by nitrol
Give him a range now.

I think QQ+ will 4bet, 99,33 and 22 just call flop, maybe he had JJ and flush draws,AKs,AQs,AJs,KQs,78s


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nitrol
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01.06.2016, 14:49

Why do you think sets are just calling flop?


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Polezi
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01.06.2016, 16:06

Originally posted by nitrol
Why do you think sets are just calling flop?

not so danger flop and I don't know that he will be capable to shove sets and expect that I will call with overpairs, and have another player on hand


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