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Value raise river in 3bet pot?

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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

I 3bet for value against the UTG. River villain leads out, can we value raise?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 108.9 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 43)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 22.67, PFR: 14.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 77)
CO: 116.1 BB (VPIP: 20.70, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 9.35, Hands: 295)
Hero (BTN): 233 BB
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 13.71, 3Bet Preflop: 11.32, Hands: 126)
BB: 95.5 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 35)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ A♦

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 6♦ 6♠ 3♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 12.5 BB, UTG calls 12.5 BB

Turn: (42.5 BB, 2 players) 7♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 20.3 BB, UTG calls 20.3 BB

River: (83.1 BB, 2 players) 9♥
UTG bets 41.2 BB, Hero calls 41.2 BB

Spoiler

UTG shows J♠ J♥ (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)
(Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A♥ A♦ (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
(Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 158.1 BB
Rake paid 7.4 BB


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We can be lucky that our call doesn't need to succeed so often but I don't know whether your hand here is strong enough. I'd call here anyway. We cannot raise for value as there are hands in villain's range that beat us.

Looking to spoiler: Nice call :f_thumbsup: PPs are def in villain's range.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I am worried about the paired board but I think you can call.
Not sure if you should ask his 28bb left.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think it is ok to bluffcatch with AA.


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5trang3
Joined: 24.05.2016

GTO says that this is a call (you're never getting here with anything better than AA) but then again this is 10NL soooooo I guess GTO is not so important.

I would actually probably fold here. It is very possible that UTG plays this way with 66, 33, 77 and maybe even 99. And it is hard for him to be bluffing.
I'm actually wondering if he is donking river for value here with JJ or he just decided to turn it into a bluff. It would be a terrible play if it was for the first reason but a pretty sick play if it was for the second reason.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Since opponent just XC turn on paired FD board. I suppose he has not FH on turn. Also, his sizing on river sounds like blocking bet - he has some hand but he is not strong enough. I suppose to get 2/3 PSB donk on turn or 2/3 PSB if opponent spiked the river or turn with FH, so I think we need to shove to extract some extra value from his over pairs.
I guess since he called 2 streets on the wet board he could have something like this KK-66,AdKd,AdQd,KdQd,AdJd,QdJd,AdTd,JdTd,Td9d,9d8d,8d7d,Ad5d
equilab did not exclude AdXd from this range, but if you enter it, it will be excluded on the river. Just shove the river. (Even if we exclude KK, we will have at least 80% of equity).


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

The villain is raising from UTG and does not have 6x in his range. Don't see him to bet half pot with full house either. So just shove.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Trivial call.

We get 3:1, and in my case, my next (almost) better hand is a full house. (I play 76s and maybe 65s this way, but not 86s or A6s).

On the hand reading side, villain probably missed that low board as VaskataBuci observed. That observation allows for wider bluff catching, maybe QQ?


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
The villain is raising from UTG and does not have 6x in his range. Don't see him to bet half pot with full house either. So just shove.

+1


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