Pot controlling with bottom fullhouse 197bb deep

Check/Jam it.

I think I would keep betting on the turn. I guess it makes sense that you want to balance your range in this spot though since you would be checking back most bluffs. But I also feel like you are missing out on value from any 9 or J that villain called the flop with.

As played, the strength of your hand is super underrepped so I think you can actually raise river here and try to get more value out of 9x hands.

Originally posted by BrokesoBroke
Check/Jam it.

+1
We definitely should get more value here.

I do not like the passive line but when villain bets vs us on river, we should push.

Tough spot to get value. Like 5trang3 says you underrep your hand so villain has to believe you can c/jam light or as bluff here. As played he may even think Jx is good, so sounds like you get called by worse often enough to be profitable. Plus check/ jam is just too fun to pass up!

You decided to check OTT because your bluffs check too.. So you are balancing against completely unknown villain who has no clue how you play. I would just bet OTT.

OTR you probably have the nuts. Jam here. Villain would have raised J9 or JJ OTF.

Wow you totally missed value here, just think about it. Villain will fold to a riverjam if you are bluffing which makes you nothing (EV=0), then call with a tiny range that has you beat which (which would then be -EV jam vs that part of his range) but it has a lot of hands that will call your raise which is then hugely +++EV so I think you should have raised river too. In PLO this might be a different story but in NLHE you should absolutely raise river and if he happens to have a higherfull house when he calls then so be it, but doesn't mean your rivershove was -EV because he will also call with all trips etc that you beat.

Not that easy, either which way it goes.

200 bb deep is a very different ballpark if opponents have some sort of undamaged brain cells left. For starters, the button should be calling with about 100% of his range here preflop if he can play well. (It is enough that he thinks he plays better than you and CO - which he does since he is at your table.) He is in position in a cheap 3-way (so far) spot. Not playing e.g. J♦:9♠: or 9♦:4♦: is criminal. Still assuming competent opponents, is he paying off his stack with A♥:9♦:?

This should be the staring point, and playing cautious with bottom full is something that should be considered. Routinely getting it in with overpairs 100 bb deep is questionable, and bottom set is a questionable stack off hand 200 bb deep i m o. Not simple.

Check-raise the flop

Originally posted by BrokesoBroke
Check/Jam it.
+1:f_love: