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TT in a squeeze pot

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shecky
Joined: 20.08.2009

here we are against a reg 22/19 with fold to 3bet 56 - also 63 fold2cbet and 50 fold tocbet on 3bet pots.
since he is not folding much on 3 bets I expect him to have here QQ-88, AQs-ATs, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AQo-AJo, KJo+ , and not KK,AA and AK because his 4bet range is 2% after 1.8k hands
was it bad played the fold on the turn

IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $18.42 (184.2 bb)
UTG: $15.41 (154.1 bb)
MP: $10.30 (103 bb)
CO: $28.23 (282.3 bb)
BTN: $10.30 (103 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♥: T♣:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, MP calls $1, CO folds

Flop: ($2.95) 2♦: K♥: 7♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.95) 7♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.97, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$5.95 pot ($0.49 rake)
Final Board: 2♦: K♥: 7♠: 7♦:
Hero mucked T♥: T♣: and lost (-$2.80 net)
MP mucked and won $5.46 ($2.66 net)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This is decent line against some players but since villain seems to be calling quite much, I expect him to float much too. We have to defend against his floats sometimes so betting this hand twice or then check calling the turn bet would be nice.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I would have bet a bit bigger OTF. As he still calls off 50% of the time so our bet needs to be profitable.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Board is dry and there is no need to bet bigger. You want medium hands to call, not to fold.
I can make a turn bet too.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I don't like squeezing that hand preflop too much, I would rather call. When we squeeze, we have to be aware that he openned from MP and called squeeze, so his range should be stronger than on the BTN, for example. K72 hits that range quite well, imo. I feel like our hand is not good enough for value cbetting the flop, so I would rather check/call (and check/fold the turn). If we cbet, we could do it smaller, imo, like 1/3, because we are betting for protection (vs hands like AQ).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

What value range do you have for a squeeze here?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
What value range do you have for a squeeze here?

Those are my default ranges:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

What is OC and BSqz?
Green is too tight.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Alleen86 +1


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think Alleen's value SQZ range is ok since it has that mixed strategy range so we can value squeeze more often against some villains and less against some. Of course we could always value squeeze AKs, AQs but that is not a big thing.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
What is OC and BSqz?
Green is too tight.

V SQZ - Value Squeeze
OC - Overcall
B SQZ - Bluff Squeeze
Mix SQZ/OC - Mixed Range (Sometimes squeeze, sometimes overcall)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Isn't the value range too tight?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

In absolute numbers it is too tight. Given we are OOP, it is not. We can't realize all value. Any caller can, and more to that having position.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
Isn't the value range too tight?

Actually, I'm using w34z3l's ranges. I don't think the value range is too tight. For example, I don't think we have a value squeeze with JJ every time in those positions.


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5trang3
Joined: 24.05.2016

Have to agree with a few of the above posts. Squeezing for value pre with TT is a bit ambitious especially since we are OOP. I think we should flat TT in this spot. And check/call flop and turn on this runout.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I like the charts. I think W34z3l has one of the best charts here on the forum for micros, that is. However, as soon as our game develops and we get more info, we adapt.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think TT is strong enough for a squeeze OOP. We have FE and we can play it well postflop.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I also think it is good enough to squeeze. This is more about terminology. What is meant by a value squeeze? I know you don't mean 3-bet-AI rooting for a call of the AI. I hope you don't mean either that you hope he calls rather than folds. (His range then is full of stuff like QQ/JJ/AK/two suited high cards, and not that much worse.) It is the combination of FE and equity if he calls that is nice. Simply flatting is nice too.


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