zoom 3b BU/MP attemps to get 3x thin value vs weird river x/r

Gross spot. I dont like your bet sizings at all. If oyu are doing it to induce - you have to call but i dont really see what he would turn into a bluff here - JJ, QQ, TT? Ac ?

I would personally check turn for pot control as i dont see 3 streets of value against a weaker hand. The way you played it, mp folding river vs unknown as this screams like AK, 88 or nut flush that is aware you never have a full house here.

Xb river and sleep well.

No, I do not like to call here but I would be annoyed = crying fold

If we are folding, then we should not be betting at all on river.

I don't think that b/f is necessarily a line we shouldn't be taking. I think we can bet for thin value and fold here quite comfortably. Our opponent is almost never ever bluffing as our line exudes great strength on this kind of board.

That being said, checking back the river is also fine.

My major gripe with this hand is the tiny bet sizing on flop and turn. We have to charge our opponents draws more! We are missing out on too much value here.

Flush, AK and full houses are possible. We have the chance to close the action -> check back river. If we are going to fold to a raise we shouldn't be betting at all.

Thanks guys.

No problems

Originally posted by vengeance77
Thanks guys.

vengeance, give your insight and comments on the hand when posting, please.

I told you I was going for 3 streets of thin value, so in fallowing of my plan I must fold om the river, but In the other hand I cannot see what is going to beat me on the river vs unknown and not going to raise earlier? There isn't any logic at all in this line vs unknown:)