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AA slowed down to early?

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Sailer85
Joined: 15.10.2009

Hand #16
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 2923145
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: A :heart:
CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls

Flop: (7.4 SB) Q :club: Q :heart: 6 :heart: (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls

Turn: (6.7 BB) 8 :spade: (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls

River: (8.7 BB) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls

My thoughts:
PF: standard
F: after his d/3b I'm kind a scared of a Q
T: Probably I should have raised here
R: after T i have to call here

What do you think, did I play correct or did I slowdown to early?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It looks fine played to me. A typical spot you are far behind or slight in front against a flush draw or so.
I don’t think it’s too bad to call his 3bet on the flop and call him down.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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pcbeem
Joined: 16.07.2008

Tricky hand but I think you played it ok.

On the flop you can cap it but just calling down is maybe better.

As you said he can easily have the Q so why take the risk and blow up the pot.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

No, this is a clear error on the flop. If he has the Q, then you are fried when raising. If he, on the other hand, doesn't have the Q, then he is bluffing, and you want him to continue doing that. He wont usually do that if you raise him. Just call down.


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MrT61
Joined: 17.09.2011

I am not sure he is always bluffing, he can have 1pairhands too (ex 77), some FD,
but indeed , if he is bluffing, we prefer to let him bluffing
but if he is drawing, we have too let him pay maximum to see the river,

that said,
I think we played the hand fine here


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Wrong logic. If he is drawing (and we don't know that), then he has paid for the turn card already, and is effectively bluffing. Not raising is not at all the same as giving free cards, and even if it were, we can't play versus only a part of his range. That 77 you mention might not be very interested in calling much more (flop reraise + turn bet + river bet) if we reraise. But it will probably continue betting if we just call.


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Sailer85
Joined: 15.10.2009

Originally posted by YohanN7
No, this is a clear error on the flop. If he has the Q, then you are fried when raising. If he, on the other hand, doesn't have the Q, then he is bluffing, and you want him to continue doing that. He wont usually do that if you raise him. Just call down.

Would you play it different if we were OOP. example: we cbet and he raises IP?
would you also calldown?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Sailer85

Originally posted by YohanN7
No, this is a clear error on the flop. If he has the Q, then you are fried when raising. If he, on the other hand, doesn't have the Q, then he is bluffing, and you want him to continue doing that. He wont usually do that if you raise him. Just call down.

Would you play it different if we were OOP. example: we cbet and he raises IP?
would you also calldown?

I'd actually consider that (playing differently, i.e. 3-betting) with the proper read. That read would be "opponent often raising flop for turn free card" or "is a maniac". Without that read, I'd just call down.

I formulated myself quite cryptically originaly, I admit that, but you seem to get my point anyway. A clearer description would be this: Our AA overpair is on this board objectively a bluff catcher. It should be treated as such. (Maybe I have played too much NL lately. Getting too scarred:thinking: )


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Sailer85
Joined: 15.10.2009

It was quite clear to me, so no problems there :f_p:


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